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If I were in Umno I would do exactly the same. I would use the immense wealth that Umno posses to buy over the prostitutes in Pakatan Rakyat. Anyway, is that not what we want Anwar Ibrahim to do? We want Anwar to form a new federal government by enticing at least 30 Parliamentarians from Barisan Nasional to cross over to the opposition.
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
Many ask why I have been very silent the last 48 hours. Well, that is because I sudah menyampah. Why scream now? If we want to scream make sure we do it before the ship sinks. Once we are in the water we should save our breath for breathing -- if we can keep our heads above water, that is. If not, then quietly drown and die with some dignity. At least you will be remembered for someone who died in style.
There is a time to talk. There is a time to act. Now is no longer the time to talk. So can all those people who keep sending me messages via SMS about ‘you must do this’ or ‘you must do that’ please stop doing so. You are just wasting your money. I don’t even read them. I just delete them without reading any of them. Stop telling me what I should do. If you feel something should be done, go and do it yourself.
Okay, I am down with a bad flu so I am in a very bad mood today. Even my wife is staying out of my way. I have not been sleeping because every time I do I start coughing violently. This article, for sure, is being written with me in a most foul mood indeed.
In spite of the flu I drove up to Ipoh on Thursday but came home that same night because I had to go to court the following morning (yesterday). I am sure many of you who met me in Ipoh noticed I was not my usual friendly self. Sorry if I appeared sombong but I was feeling real bad on Thusday.
To add to that list of aggravations, I am in the midst of preparing for three court cases next week -- my sedition, criminal defamation and ISA hearings. Yes, I am going to be locked up in three different courts almost the entire week. And chances are, I might be sent back to Kamunting to spend the remaining years of my life under detention if I lose.
I wrote the following pieces in the run-up to Thursday:
Constitutional Monarchy, rule of law and good governance (5 Feb) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17646/84/)
How to bring a government down (4 Feb) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17609/84/)
If fresh state elections are held in Perak (4 Feb) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17586/84/)
Santa Claus is coming to town (2 Feb) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17494/84/)
No two ways about it: DISSOLVE the Perak State Assembly (2 Feb) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17494/84/)
Live by the sword, die by the sword (31 Jan) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17434/84/)
I just love this country (27 Jan) (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17284/84/)
As you can see, I have already said what I wanted to say. There is nothing more I can add about an event that is already a fait accompli. Nasi sudah jadi bubur, as the Malays would say.
About a week ago, a few of us sat down to discuss the impending collapse of the Perak government. It was suggested we speak to the Pakatan Rakyat leaders, which we did. Our recommendation was that they dissolve the Perak State Assembly and hold fresh state elections while Pakatan Rakyat still has the majority in the Assembly. Once Pakatan Rakyat has lost that majority it will be too late. No way will the Sultan agree to the request to dissolve the Perak State Assembly once you no longer command the majority in the Assembly.
But the Pakatan Rakyat leaders would not listen. They still have things under control, they remarked. We did not think so and we told them this. But who are we to ‘teach grandmothers how to suck eggs’, as Malaysians would say? If we are so smart then how come they, and not us, are the party leaders. We would be sitting in their chairs, instead, if we are cleverer than them. Politicians do not think much of you if you do not hold any party positions. They only respect those who hold positions in political parties and government, not those outside mainstream politics.
Everyone is an expert on hindsight. Only good leaders have foresight. And our leaders lack just that, foresight. They are very clever when it comes to reacting to situations. But they know nothing about pre-empting. Why react, especially when it is too late? You must be able to pre-empt before it is too late to do anything. This is what our leaders lack, the skill to pre-empt.
When the Rulers of Perlis and Terengganu ‘interfered’ in Umno’s choice of Menteri Besar, we hailed them as great Rulers who are full of justice and wisdom. When the Rulers agreed to allow Pakatan Rakyat to form the Perak and Selangor state governments, they are the best Rulers in the world. Whenever things go our way we are full of praise. But as soon as the decision does not favour us they are haprak Rulers.
The Rulers are a disappointment. We are disgusted with our Rulers. Our Rulers sold out to Umno. Malaysia should abolish the Monarchy and turn the country into a Republic. And so on and so forth. That is what is on the lips of many Malaysians. But if the Rulers had favoured the opposition, even though they did so in violation of the law and the Constitution, we will hail the Rulers as amongst the best in the world.
Actually, the Perak and Selangor Rulers were worried that the Pakatan Rakyat state governments of these two states would not last, in particular in Perak, which had a very slim majority. That is why there was a week’s delay in swearing in the Perak and Selangor state governments.
And can you blame the Rulers? DAP had said it will not sit at the same table as PAS, let alone form a coalition government with it, if PAS does not openly and publicly declare it will abandon the Islamic State agenda. PAS, on the other hand, said it shall not openly and publicly declare such a thing. That means DAP and PAS can never form a coalition.
The Rulers of Perak and Selangor then called all the State Assemblymen and women from DAP, PKR and PAS and asked them, one by one, whether they agree to the formation of coalition governments in Perak and Selangor. The coalition can only be formed if all three parties -- DAP, PKR and PAS -- agree to it. Even if just one of the three do not agree, then Pakatan Rakyat will not have enough seats to form the governments in both Perak and Selangor.
The DAP, PKR and PAS State Assemblymen and women indicated their agreement. But this still did not satisfy the Rulers. You can say one thing now, but what is there to prevent you from changing your minds later? So the Rulers asked the DAP, PKR and PAS State Assemblymen and women for both Perak and Selangor to sign letters confirming this agreement. Only then will the Rulers agree to swear in the new state governments.
It was, in a way, a contract of sorts. The Rulers wanted all the DAP, PKR and PAS State Assemblymen and women from Perak and Selangor to sign a contract stating that they agree to the formation of a three-party coalition and that there are no dissenters from amongst the ranks of DAP, PKR and PAS.
Then the fight broke out. DAP, PKR and PAS could not agree on how to share out the EXCO positions, the racial quotas, who should hold the posts of Menteri Besar and Speaker, and so on. In Selangor, some DAP State Assemblymen organised demonstrations. In Perak, they threatened to boycott the swearing-in ceremony. Even the trivial matter of the wearing of the songkok during the swearing-in ceremony became a hot issue and almost brought the coalition down before it could even be formed.
The Perak and Selangor Rulers had their doubts. They doubted whether the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition, now called Pakatan Rakyat, could last. DAP, PKR and PAS had very little in common and were always squabbling over minor issues. And they argued about party and racial quotas just like Barisan Nasional. Pakatan Rakyat is as racist as Barisan Nasional. It appeared like there is very little difference between Pakatan Rakyat and Barisan Nasional.
Nevertheless, the Perak and Selangor Rulers decided to give Pakatan Rakyat a chance. Let Pakatan Rakyat prove that not only it can do a better job but it can also keep the coalition going. If the coalition breaks up, then a decision would have to be made, later, what to do about it. In the meantime, allow Pakatan Rakyat to prove it can last at least one full term until the next general election.
Then we began to hear grumblings. This State Assemblyman was not happy and wanted to resign. That State Assemblywoman was not happy and wanted to resign. Barely one year into the marriage and the marriage appeared to be breaking up. The Indians complained about not having enough Indian quotas. The Chinese grumbled about having the most number of seats but not being able to become Menteri Besar. The Malays grumbled about the ‘Chinese’ government not looking after the Malays.
It was all about race and about so-and-so being neglected and not being looked after better. Suddenly it was no longer about the rakyat. It was about your personal interest and position and about the quotas your race is being denied. Pakatan Rakyat was nothing but Barisan Nasional by another name.
What happened in Perak is good. I hope it will teach Pakatan Rakyat that it has to get its act together. The DAP lady’s crossover was triggered by something very trivial and goes to show she is more concerned about herself than about her party or about the rakyat. Everyone got a new Camry except her. So she sulked (merajuk) and left the party. If she had been given a new car she would not have sulked. A mere car brought the Perak government down.
If this is what brought the Perak government down, then it deserves to fall. The Pakatan Rakyat government in Perak used to be a non-Malay majority government. Now, it is an almost entirely Malay government. 27 of the 28 State Assemblymen are from Umno. Even if the three ‘independents’ join the new government it will be 29 Malays against only two Chinese. And there is not a single Indian State Assemblyman/woman in the new government.
What took 52 years of transformation has been destroyed in a mere days. Today, we are back to an entirely Malay government in Perak. And a DAP State Assemblywoman helped achieve this. A Chinese made the restoration of maruah Melayu (Malay dignity) possible. She should be given the next Ma'al Hijrah award and be accorded Bumiputera status.
I can only say that this serves Pakatan Rakyat right. They had it coming. When personal interests and racial issues override everything else, you deserve to fall. And there are many low quality wakil rakyat still in Pakatan Rakyat -- DAP, PKR, as well as PAS. Expect more to cross over. The RM25 million dangled in front of their faces is just too difficult to say no to. After all, not everyone is in politics to serve the rakyat. Many are in it for their personal interests. And RM25 million is an attractive proposition.
Next time, get better candidates. Some of the Pakatan Rakyat wakil rakyat are so low standard I would not even trust them to baby-sit my dog. I would not deny there are some good wakil rakyat in Pakatan Rakyat, some even better than those from Barisan Nasional. But all we need are 30% bad ones to bring the party down, especially when you are barely surviving with a 10% majority in Parliament or the state assemblies.
Okay, Umno bought over our wakil rakyat. So what? If they are not for sale then Umno could not have been able to buy them. It is like prostitution. If there are clients then there will be prostitutes. It is the law of supply and demand. If there are no takers then there can be no givers as well. Simple!
We all know that Umno has tons of money. And RM10 million is nothing to Umno. If the Pakatan Rakyat people are so unprincipled then whom do we blame? Why blame Umno? Blame our people who worship money and pray to the Ringgit. Blame Pakatan Rakyat for fielding low quality people to contest the elections.
You can take the man out of the kampong but you can’t take the kampong out of the man. Low quality people can’t suddenly become high quality just because they are now wakil rakyat. They will still remain low quality and will kowtow to money because they have no maruah (dignity). That is, after all, what prostitutes do. They open their legs for money. And many in Pakatan Rakyat are prostitutes while those who manage prostitutes and called pimps.
If I were in Umno I would do exactly the same. I would use the immense wealth that Umno posses to buy over the prostitutes in Pakatan Rakyat. Anyway, is that not what we want Anwar Ibrahim to do? We want Anwar to form a new federal government by enticing at least 30 Parliamentarians from Barisan Nasional to cross over to the opposition. Najib did in Perak exactly what we want Anwar to do at federal level. So, why the sudden outrage? What if three State Assemblymen in Negerl Sembilan cross over and Pakatan Rakyat gets to form the new Negeri Sembilan state government? Would we still express outrage?
Let’s face it: we lost. Let’s just lick our wounds and learn from this bitter experience. Our leaders were stupid and we paid for this stupidity. We chose poor quality people as candidates. We knew that Umno was trying to buy over our wakil rakyat. We knew they would eventually succeed. But we just stood and watched without launching a pre-emptive strike -- such as dissolving the state assembly when there was time to do so and when we still had the power to do so.
That is the long and short of it. Let us lose like gentlemen. Sure, they did not play fair. The Sultan should not have forced the MB’s resignation or appointed a new MB from Umno when Nizar did not resign. Sure, there are questions of whether it was legal to do what the Sultan did. But he did, fair or otherwise. And the Sultan could not have done so had we been cleverer. We left the door open and they walked in. We should take the blame for that rather than moan and bitch. And, next time, lock all the doors. Thieves are thieves and will always be thieves. But we were sloppy and that allowed the thieves to get in. There is no denying that.
We lost the battle. But we are yet to lose the war. That is the big picture. So focus on the big picture and see how we can eventually win the war. That is more important. And how do we turn defeat into victory? How can we menang dalam kalah? We can turn defeat into victory if our leaders are clever. My only worry is whether they are clever enough to do this. Let us see.
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written by medicshan, February 07, 2009 16:15:10
In spite of a paroxysmal night cough disturbing you, and the multitude of court cases burdening you, you have hit the nail on the head with your article.
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written by OVERLORD, February 07, 2009 16:16:57
RPK...I'am sure after this muck-up, they will be more willing to listen.... Please forgive PR as they are still in their infancy stages....They need your assistance...WE need you as our rock of Gibraltar!!!
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written by soulsberry, February 07, 2009 16:17:24
All along whenever I read the speeches delivered by Perak Sultan and The Prince, I was always believed that when rakyat was bullied and robbed, some conscience Sultans will be there to product us. Well, it doesn't seem like that. Since yesterday I can feel like needle through my heart.
How and who can we turn to next time? When even the sultan and his son that positioned themselves as conscience of Malaysia; the voices of reason and logic and guardians of the Federal Constitution turned away from their beloved rakyat.
Please, the PR government in Perak is well liked by Perakians, it is not Perakians that want the change of government but a bunch of improper politicians. Please don't shut down the chance for Perakians to decide their leader.
Ampun Tuanku, I sincerely plead for your kindness to re consider your early decision.
Daulat Tuanku.
Yours sincerely.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/927550
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written by non conformist, February 07, 2009 16:18:20
He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live. Proverbs 15:27
The desire to be rich is dangerous to a man's family. He will be tempted to accept bribes or compromise righteousness, which will bring trouble to his wife, children, and estate. But a man that hates bribes or financial compromise will preserve and prosper his family.
Greed is excessive ambition and covetous desire for more than you have or should reasonably expect (1:19; Isaiah 56:11). Gain is financial success or wealth. The proverb condemns desiring to be rich, which leads to compromising godliness and wisdom.
The gifts here are bribes, which are given to pay a man to compromise the law or financial wisdom (29:4; Ex 23:8; Deut 16:19; Is 33:15). A virtuous man will hate such gifts, for he will not sell his integrity or the approval of God for any price.
Read the rest here:
http://letgodbetrue.com/proverbs/15_27.htm
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written by Mirage, February 07, 2009 16:18:33
Dear RPK,
Let me be the first to wish you well and speedy recovery from your flu. As I notice and as we all know, in the world of politics there is no such thing as a real compromise without something being exchange in between. As you rightly said, nasi sudah jadi bubur however that does not mean that all is loss. We have the majority ppl supporting Pakatan and BN knows deep down what they have won is an empty shell. So the question for the fight is what is it that really prove the former MB Nizar does not have the majority support from the constituitional angle which is not accepted by the majority. This also mean the integrity of the choice by the Sultan which is being questioned also carry BIG question mark.
I believe its the ppl power here that will change things. The BN goverment will not give in BUT they will have to succumb to a fresh election. This anyhow is what we really want isn't it....to win fair and square.
Take Care
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written by tmf, February 07, 2009 16:20:31
DEMORALIZED – BN COUP IN PERAK 6TH FEB 2009
A retired British politician confessed during an interview, on the tactic they used in frustrating the true meaning of democracy:-
“If we were to allow the people to actually have faith in democracy, then we would be ended up being their servants, working day and night, attending to all sorts of requests or needs; or addressing all sorts of issues or problems faced by the electorate.
No, we don’t want that; all we really want is power to control, power to maneuver. Honestly, it’s all about having good lives and excitement for ourselves.
How we go about achieving this was rather simple. First, we used propaganda to confuse them (the electorate), then we used all sorts of government apparatus, such as police force and other enforcement agencies to strike fear into them, and finally we demoralized them by all means during any election to ensure that they lose faith in the democratic process and do not bother to vote. So, eventually, we got elected or gained power with the silent majority watching helplessly.”
From the 5th till 6th of Feb, by taking over power in Perak from PR in the most grotesque way ever, BN/UMNO had succeeded in demoralizing me and my whole family on the democratic process in this country.
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written by exzonerator, February 07, 2009 16:22:20
Should have given the Assemblywoman a Camry toycar instead.
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written by Wassupdoc, February 07, 2009 16:26:39
It's now official. There's a checklist that was employed to screen the feasibility of UMNO taking over. So there's no way you could challenge the decision legally, or constitutionally, so to speak...
1. Is the new MB alive? Check
2. Will the new MB listen and behave? Check
3. Is the new MB from UMNO? Check
4. Is my bank account secured? Check
5. Have I checked with my wife? Check
6. Has police been informed and tear gas stocked-up? Check
7. Does all that keep Najib happy? Check
8. Cross-check and arm doors. Check
9. Call my secretary to make press statement. Check
10. Sit back and light my Cuban cigar. Check
Not a difficult decision after all. These ten steps checklist has been rigorously
tested and was found to be comprehensively foolproof, hardproof, sunproof (UVF30, anti-wrinkle) and even bulletproof. It was found to be more effective than the long-proven method, like tossing a coin, or drawing a straw for instance.
So, anymore difficult decision in the future, please refer to checklist.
(I smell fish. Najib is a clever, sly old politician. As the saying goes, only fight the battle you're confident of winning. Najib has got the plan played out right from the start. He only has to pull the string. As for HRH, noticed there's really not much 'thinking process' going on. The plan played out in rapid fire succession in
less than 24 hours. The decision has been made right before there was a decision! The parading of the 31 ADUN members is merely a 'public parade', not so much a 'royal parade'. You could have brought in 31 fried kuey teow seller from Jalan Alor and it won't make two hoot a different. Overall, I smell rats.)
God helps Malaysia.
Long live the power of people.
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written by jibbief, February 07, 2009 16:28:20
On the dot, Pete. Those morons in PR are now crying becos of their own stupidity. Let them cry their hearts out and then, maybe, they will take stock of the situation and plan for the days ahead.
PR must learn from this or they are doomed. And Chinese heroes in the DAP better get their act together. They may still win big in the GE13 but they may never taste power again.
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written by Mr Smith, February 07, 2009 16:28:52
Yes, you an angry man. But what makes you think the sultan would have agreed to dissolve the assembly earlier if requested. One must be real dumb to assume the sultan knew nothing about the goings-on in the state and UMNO's attempt to buy reps.
To put it bluntly, the Malays in Perak were unhappy with a Chinese majority government and even more angry that they were going to get land titles. UMNO had to put an end to that. Come on, sir, this was a conspiracy.
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written by jjireh99, February 07, 2009 16:29:02
ok, i think PKR has fumbled. Lesson learnt. BUT, the fact still remains that the sultan knowing extremely well the sentiments of the rakyat still chooses to side with BN/UMNO-that we cannot swallow but swallow we must! Whether it is right or wrong legally or morally, the people of today has not an ounce of conscience and integrity left in their hearts, whoever they may be, that's all! So, away with dignified and flowery and rhetoric speeches but give us back good morals and conscience. It is a forgotten virtue....tsk..tsk..tsk... so sad. I think I'll migrate after all!
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written by briantanchinyeam, February 07, 2009 16:29:13
Pakatan Rakyat,give us something different from BN.In between the March 2008 election campaign,you promise to provide the people,no more racist issues like in BN,but on the other hand,the state govt in Perak proved to us that it was mere lips service.DAP,PAS,and PKR,solve the internal problems before running the state.We still relied on you PR to topple the BN led govt.
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written by eloofk, February 07, 2009 16:32:33
Dear RPK, you're right on target. I would recommend to the leaders of PK to read up on the book "Art of War" by Sun Tze if they want to win this war.
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written by MikeChen, February 07, 2009 16:34:59
As a Perakian, I am disgusted with what is happening. I am seething and if you are like me lost for words at the shenanigan in the silver state and unable to restraint your anger but still want to stay sane, you can swear and still stay saintly! This blog has a link in how to curse your enemies without losing your cool! smilies/smiley.gif
http://thehingeblogs.blogspot.com/2009/02/verbal-blastings.html
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written by NSTPravda, February 07, 2009 16:35:48
Wah, RPK you are waxing philosophical in your old age
You are wise to concede our victory at this stage
A dog is always dog, it is in its nature to bark
Thieves are thieves, will c4 you in the dark
So now you know what we in UMNO can do
You dirty rakyats are but animals in our zoo
We have even managed to infect one ruler, on high
And convinced him of what our money can buy
So why accuse our beloved Najib of commiting any crime
We are only doing what we are good at, time after time
If we are so bad, why are we abetted by a learned royalty?
Along with two new-found UMNO supporters one crippled Hee?
You people are just pussed off becos’ you were being outplayed
Our Najib is a better master, and the jumpers were well payed
We are champions at this corrupt and double-dealing power game
If you don’t know how to steal and deal, you’ve yourselves to blame
Now we have the best state, ruler and renegades that money can buy
There is actually no faithful followers that you can rely
Don’t worry, now in power we can and will start looting right away
Just in case some errant judge rule our victory as not semua-nya OK!
Duit-lah tuan mu!
Duit-lah tuan mu!
Duit-lah tuan mu!
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written by lampard, February 07, 2009 16:36:06
RPK, We are in sync!! That was what I commented! Freaking lousy representatives,a kampong old freak, an ex postman and a form 5 failed clerk! Now all can buy Fellali(Ferrari) and live in Perth...!
Encik Anwar, why dont you use better candidates?
screen your people le....For 1, offer RPK a high seat in PKR! He is better than most of your representatives add together!!!
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written by SocratesI, February 07, 2009 16:37:06
Pakatan Rakyat has to get its act together and be more pro-active instead of reactive. The leaders would do well to follow Karpal Singh's impeecable example of what principled leadership is all about, and indeed take in and absorb Ku Li's comments too, and learn from there. No cross-overs should have been condoned either way. Sure, it is tempting indeed to dream of cross-overs to enable Pakatan Rakyat to topple Barisan Najis and take over the Govt., but we must remember our bargaining position - Pakatan Rakyat is an Opposition Party, and with no access to the type of financial resources that Barisan Najis has. What can Pakatan Rakyat offer the ADUNs who are willing to prostitute themselves that Barisan Najis cannot double, triple or quadruple the offer ??!!
There are upright people, but amongst the Utterly Moronic Nazi Org. ADUNs maybe only 1 is left - Ku Li, and he won't jump ship 'cos he is a principled man. To the rest, what can possibly move them ?? Money ?? Pakatan does not have as much as Barisan Najis and will be out-gunned hands down. position & power ?? They are the ruling party so what can Pakatan offer them ... and even if they cross-over, 2 things will happen, UMNO just ips the offer and buys him/her back, or Pakatan ADUNs will get uneasy and jealous that the prostitute ADUNs from UMNO can be given better offers and that would upset the Assemblymen in PR.
So the best way forward for PR is just to do a great job as much as you can, and keep in close touch and communication with the Rakyat, and work sincerely for the Rakyat towards a Free & Just Malaysia by the next GE in 2013 !
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written by Raja Chulan, February 07, 2009 16:37:55
Absolutely spot on Bang Pete.
Thank you BN for cleaning out the prostitutes from PR for us. We just lost a battle but strengthening to win the war.
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written by SamSan, February 07, 2009 16:40:09
Hi Pete, Your summation is very apt. I am pleading to DAP and Keadilan to dissolve and merge under a newly reconstituted PAS which has the original founding fathers Malaysian constitution as the new PAS's party constitution. PAS should amend its constitution to be all encompassing moderate Islam where there is no such thing as kafirs but only sons of Adam and Abraham of different denominations and faith, all co-existing harmonioulsy under the overall overaching umbrella of moderate Islam. Pete, I strongly believe if everyone in PAS, DAP and Keadilan accepts the true teaching of the Prophet and follow his precepts to the core under this new PAS where equality, transparency, civic consciousness,basic human rights and no class consciousness exist, then and only then will be able to forge a strong alternative government. I am praying to Allah Almighty to guide and open the third eye and wisdom of our Pakatan leaders to truly merge and form a formidable opposition under the wisdom and true love of ISLAM.
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written by michael, February 07, 2009 16:41:20
Get Well and Stay Well, Dear RPK.
The PR coalition needs you, whether or not they dare to admit it;
The Royalty needs you, whether or not they care to admit it; and
Malaysians needs You, the MOST and we know it!
Take Care and Best Wishes!
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written by Richy, February 07, 2009 16:41:53
After all our grievances and disputes over this robbery, this is the reality. Yes, we do not have many MPs and assemblymen with integrity and honesty in PR. Yes, some have sold their souls for money. We don't have to take them to street but we have to do something, like challenging them in the court. I’m not talking taking UMNO or BN to court. I’m talking about the traitors. The assemblymen must be taught through some hard means. Perhaps the constituents from all three constituencies should gather to take them to court for the betrayal. We have not done this before. It's not about PR losing their members in the august house. It's about the voters who have been cheated by their representatives. Sue them for betrayal; sue them for disappearing for 5 days without prior notification. Sue them for going back on their words. Sue them for deceiving the majority who placed their trust on them as respective party members.
Let this be the precedence for other voters who could face similar problems.
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written by A MI, February 07, 2009 16:42:20
Dear RPK
Get well soon and may the Angels protect you and help you win all your court cases. Ameen.
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written by eskay, February 07, 2009 16:48:18
Good advice to PR & rakyat. Thank you. Will PR take the heed ?
A good lesson to me too –
1)don’t put the blame on others, check what’s wrong with myself first
2)when comes to a matter of life & death, first must take precautious guard, do not expect, judge & assume someone looked virtuous / kind / helpful will actually lend the necessary supports.
Get Well Soon !!
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written by jjireh99, February 07, 2009 16:50:21
DSAI, I still think you should be able to convince 30 MPs to cross over now. After all, it is acceptable now, don't you think? Just a thot'. I can't wait for the next GE13 to rid of UMNO/BN, that's all! What a shame for them to know that majority of the rakyat have written them off for good. Everyone wants to get rid of them. Even though they may say it's all your fault for suggesting cross-over first, but they are still a pathetic party now knowing that everyone looks down upon this corrupted party. Ah well, at least this thought is comforting enough for me not to migrate now!
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written by Wassupdoc, February 07, 2009 16:53:32
Get well soon Sir RPK, first you have my respect cos you're from the Royal family and fight for the people. Now you have my respect cos you're RPK and fight for the people. May the force be with you!!
Yoda
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written by biggun129, February 07, 2009 16:53:50
We had been commenting and voting for a 'Snap Election' before all this things happend, nobody read our comments, and nobody care about our voting, you can vote in MT a million times but if there is no action to whom it concerned, so, now, why should we cry our split milk, we had done what we are support to do, if the PR's attitude keep on like this, then you will see Kedah changing hand in a very short period, I said before, why dont you killed the onslaught bull, before the onslaught bull kick you out from the arena, and now PR, do you really feels the pain???If you try to be mercy to your enemy, then you are very cruel to yourself!!!When I proposed a buy over of the Frogs to form the Federal Government, most of the commentators in MT critize me for unethical, and they said PR must retain its integrity and be ethical, and now, what happened, dealing with crooks with mercy hearts,that is what you are getting, not only the Malaysian hurts but the nation moving toward the end road!!!For those hard core who still cannot accept the facts, please think it over before you put your comments on MT!!!
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written by TheMessenger, February 07, 2009 16:55:13
Bro RPK..
U have the wisdom to lead.
when everyone say it's right, you can tell there is still something wrong.
when everyone say it's wrong, you can see there is something right about it.
just like our wise Guru Nik Aziz.
RPK.. I'm with you..
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written by shissun, February 07, 2009 16:55:19
RPK,
Pardon me if I rude. However, I need to stress. We are not well-read about politics or strategists like you all in PR team. I am not a truly PR supporter. As well as millions of Perakians who trapped in such crisis. Last election, we took the trouble driving all the way back from KL to Perak, paying ourselves the petrol and toll and and half working day leave to vote for CHANGE. Yes, CHANGE, not for BN or PR. What has happened now is a big big letdowns for us. One of my friends said, damn, no need to have election lah. We felt extremely fuming. We felt we being betrayed by our own people.
We don't know what happened behind the political door. What the Sultan's thinking and rationale. What PR leaders had and had not done to save the day. Honestly, we do not care at all. What we know is our Vote for Change had being violated and yes, given another chance, we will ensure total annihilation whoever messed up our state.
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written by justinlian, February 07, 2009 16:58:35
I recommend Pakatan to have RPK to be their adviser and listen to him carefully.
Such wisdom in a human, where were you all able to find.
Maybe next 2 life also you wont be able to find one.
Although he has use half of his life to do something else but at least he still has the wisdom for everyone.
If all Pakatan leaders does not unite, you will forever gone with the wind.
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written by confuseus, February 07, 2009 17:01:40
"Some of the Pakatan Rakyat wakil rakyat are so low standard I would not even trust them to baby-sit my dog."
He, he, he - Welcome back again, RPK !!
Yes, not long after the GE12, I even told Bersih leaders that they won not because Rakyat love them but because Rakyat hate BN but after securing 5 states, they became worst and worst just like BN.... DUA KALI LIMA = 15 !!!
You guys should have set up the OMBUDSMAN Office as agreed but you all SUCKS!!!
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written by Chaptokam, February 07, 2009 17:02:15
Well written ,
Well analysed
Right on the dot
Unbiased report
Look at Ones self before you start screaming ..........
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written by needchg, February 07, 2009 17:03:06
dear Pete, last few days we were fishing...missed your presence. Hope you will take care and get well. If you need a good chinese medical doctor who is good for cough treatment...go to Lucky Garden , Bangsar and see Andrew (his shop is call Ban Joo Trading). I know how terrible you must feel, so you must get rid of this nagging cough.
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written by Wisdom above, February 07, 2009 17:05:49
Thanks PETE for highlighting the misgivings among some PR ADUNS and MPs !
Now I remembered the PEOPLES' PARLIAMENT DECLARATION in details !
(1)DAP, PKR and PAS had very little in common and were always squabbling over minor issues.And they argued about party and racial quotas.
(2)If she had been given a new car she would not have sulked. A mere car brought the Perak government down.
(3)When personal interests and racial issues override everything else, you deserve to fall. And there are many low quality wakil rakyat still in Pakatan Rakyat -- DAP, PKR, as well as PAS.
(4)Next time, get better candidates. Some of the Pakatan Rakyat wakil rakyat are so low standard I would not even trust them ... (to display RIGHTEOUSNESS )
If she had been given a new car she would not have sulked. A mere car brought the Perak government down.... VERY SHAMEFUL indeed !
She should have asked her electorates to buy her a new CAMRY instead of just sulking ? Things would be different in due course ?
I for once may 'contribute my small contribution to enable the State Govt to purchase' one new CAMRY for her Official usage as I know PR State Government are denied FINANCIAL supports from the Arrogance BN Federal Government.
I Like this ending by Pete !
"So focus on the big picture and see how we can eventually win the war. That is more important. And how do we turn defeat into victory? How can we menang dalam kalah? We can turn defeat into victory if our leaders are clever."
Next time, get better candidates.
YES, get candidates who can lead a normal, simple and contended life as a Wakil Rakyat like you can think anyone who ?
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written by aryn, February 07, 2009 17:12:44
Sure, the PR leaders and wakils ought to be ashamed of their actions and lack of foresight. And 'padan muka' they lost Perak for refusing to listen to sound advice. If they are any wiser, they should solicit as much good advice from outside the PR circle to remain relevant.
But that does not absolve the Perak Sultan for what he did, what he could have done. He could have defend democracy in the interest of his subjects and for Malaysians alike.
His decision would certainly help pave the way for the restoration of democracy and rights to elect a government. Rights and democracy that eroded under Umno/BN govt.
His decision would also endear the royalties to the people as 'payung negara'. It would also help restore their dignity when Umno/Mahathir clipped their wings then.
Bear in mind that it is only after Pakatan Rakyat features prominently and won five states in the PRU12 that the royalties 'found' their voice again. Because the people power are embracing them where Umno/BN trampled them.
But now, it appears to be back to square one. The people's rights and democracy are once again raped and rob.
The Perak Sultan could have put a stop to all these injustice and pave a way for Malaysia towards a new era and our dream for a change. But he disappointed us when it mattered most.
The saddest thing is that he might just open the floodgates for more 'rampas kuasa' Unless his brother rulers or head of state have the guts to stand up for what is right.
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written by ireneyow, February 07, 2009 17:17:20
I am a Perakian and I would say that Perakians LOVE Pajatan Rakyat goverment. We have no regrets on the late submission of the dissolution of state assembly. We however are more disappointed that the ruler swore in 2 assemblymen knowing very well there are having a corruption case this coming Tuesday and another bloody women who ran away from the her party just because of a New car. Is this logic. All he needs to do is read and hear more from his rakyat which he did not do do. Is our ruler fair in his decision. Even if you execute me I will still say "HE IS NOT A FAIR RULER" He deserves all those bad comments about him. We will praise him if he is GOOD and will scream at him when he is NO GOOD. We Perakians are people with sensible mind. We do not own any certificate from Hospital Tanjong Rambutan eventhough it is very near.
Take care.
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written by sahabat, February 07, 2009 17:20:21
Excellent article from RPK.
When Hee Yit Foong the Deputy Speaker failed to turn up during the Sultan's silver jubilee celebration, I had asked PR leaders not to waste time talking but to immediately dissolve the assembly. Unfortunately who am I for them to listen.
We all read RPK's appeal to have the assembly dissolved but again PR leaders did not bother to take note. Now it is too late.
Anyway, let us pray PR leaders would win in all the cases that they are bring to the courts.
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written by krising1, February 07, 2009 17:20:25
After reading this I suddenly feel "lifted". Yes, there should not be any unruly behaviour of any kind. If as you say, there were signs of trouble and PR did not want to move to dissolve the assembly, it has been a very said mistake. Now we have to move. And for RPK, here is some Dr. Quack advice - gargle your mouth and throat with warm salt water. You should find some relief if you you do it every few hours.
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written by Stephengui, February 07, 2009 17:24:48
RPK,another fantastic hit right on the nail.Though felt sad n disappointed but ironically PR got what they deserved in Perak...Like what I feel in my heart, a frog is a frog, whether BN, UMNO, PR, PAS, PKR, DAP or whatsoever...so please get rid of all the potential frogs n scrutinise all candidates before fielding them....and PLIZ, PLIZ, prove one of my friends wrong when he said that all of us Malaysians are not yet ready for real DEMOCRACY..a successful political party should disregard and never bring out racial issue....all of us are Malaysians...period...
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written by froggy, February 07, 2009 17:25:05
The Prostitute of Jelapang
http://thedandelions.wordpress...-jelapang/
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written by ksmaniam, February 07, 2009 17:29:16
I agree and wish to add a few more things which PR is lacking which we have indicated and they have not carried out..
1. form a shadow cabinet....this will show how serious they are tol from a new government, and the MP's will have something to do...rather than piciking on UMNO's mistakes they would have been seen as a tough opponent...and the leaders could have become the problems solvers akin to overlook the bigger picture....
2. After forming governments they were busy....and the one's who were not part of the government were left out....the limelight was on some thus the others were not part of the governing.....human fraility took over...
3. MP's were neglected, party was weak and needed the MP's support rather than the MP's getting support from the party. Why? The party was not well organised. DAP is an old party but it has been an effective opposition. Governing is a new game for it. DAP failed in perak. Even in Penang, its only Lim Guan Eng, the rest is a vacuum.
Take away LIm, Penang is empty. The other MP's must be given a bigger role. Perhaps its a typical LIM.
4. We always say BN is a well oiled machinery. Well PR is not. So it has to become a well oiled machinery. HOW? Start becoming PAKATAN RAKYAAT and not PAS in Kelantan, DAP for chinese, PRK for DSAI. Please become PR. YOU have not. period.
my 2 cents worth added to RPK if he allows.
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written by sorosapril, February 07, 2009 17:29:36
I always believe race and religion should not mix with politic, DAP likes to play race while PAS like to play religion, how to work together?
every time the leaders of DAP open their mouth, may be they don't realise it, it is bad taste for those who are at the receiving end of their words, likewise same thing for PAS.
Keadilan? majority of them are ex-UMNO, so what is the different?
Anyway, wonder why PAKATAN Leaders never learnt history of SABAH incident, the same thing happened and repeated in PERAK.
Why the MB did not seek for dissolution the first time he met the Sultan? was he worried he would not be the MB again if there was an election and PAKATAN won big? again self interest like RPK said.
Overconfident on the part of the Pakatan Leaders? most probably,
RPK is right, if your men are not strong enough and easily enticed by RM, too bad. every one blamed the Sabah voters for voting BN in the last election, i am not surprised if you looked at the candidates put forth by Pakatan, ( by the way, does it exist in Sabah, i see some areas having candidates from keadilan and dap together)the candidates are mostly ex-BN people and they are ' well known" so why vote for them, the different is if you vote for BN, at least there are money coming from Federal, if you voted in an opposition, no money coming and the elected running Sabah govrenment will make Sabah poorer liked Sabah under PBS time, the leaders were busy for themselves and not development of Sabah, Sabahans would not want to go through the same again
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written by ahmadneil, February 07, 2009 17:31:53
If I were offered that much money I will surely take the money and still vote PR.
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written by cabearth, February 07, 2009 17:32:04
RPK,
I doubt the Sultan will allow dissolution of State Assembly even if the Pakatan leaders had agreed to your proposal.
This plan had been hatched a long time ago. A difference of one week will not make much difference.
The Sultan will still reject our call for dissolution of DUN anyway.
Besides, should we come and request the Sultan to dissolve while we still have majority the Sultan will have bigger reason to reject our call.
Sultan will say "Why"? At least this time, the sultan did't ask why.
Trust me. A difference of one week will not make any difference. Things has already been made into motion
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written by ksmaniam, February 07, 2009 17:32:26
And yes i was also disappointed and so was my dearest friend Sulaiman. I was heart broken and unable to believe it. Remember all the hullabulloo after march 8, in perak, well a was sad then. But now I am sadder. Really sad.
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written by hellosunshine, February 07, 2009 17:33:52
"So the Rulers asked the DAP, PKR and PAS State Assemblymen and women for both Perak and Selangor to sign letters confirming this agreement. Only then will the Rulers agree to swear in the new state governments."
You seemed to be defending the royals in this article but based on the above extract from you, shouldn't the Sultan had royally admonished these 3 kataks for their lack of integrity and dishonesty in breaking their signed and sworn agreement in front of him? And based on this, the Sultan should dissolve the DUN.
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written by raven1958, February 07, 2009 17:34:30
Sorry RPK...Yes candidates are of poor quality. I cannot believe LKS fell for the polio trick but compromised on the fact that she was a clerk. Just another Saiful character. But the Perak Sultan was dead wrong in what he did. He should have stayed out of it and let the electorate decide. The Aussies had a drunk named John Kerr who did something similar in 1975. The electorate never forgave him and till this day Aussies still clamor for a Republic, which they will eventually achieve. This episode has shown that Malaysians and especially Malays are not naive anymore....the death knell for the monarchy has been sounded...its demise is only a matter of time.
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written by johanssm, February 07, 2009 17:36:33
Your humble advise and radical simple explanation did subside the anger in most of us. Not all but most of us.
PR do need better consultants from the outside instead of just relying on their own party . It is hard to know and to prevent prostitution.
But since it is an okay to have political prostitution.This means it is perfectly okay to have the flesh trade prostitution as well.That is how i interpret it.
Flesh trade prostitute is to feed her own family but political prostitute is to enrich oneself. Appears that flesh trade prostitutes have a higher moral standing than the latter.
We should look at a bigger picture by losing Perak.As well as No Pain, No gain.
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written by ibabonma, February 07, 2009 17:38:14
UMNO can take Perak by what ever means but we quarrel with Tuanku's decision in not allowing the Assembly to be dissolved thus allowing the rakyat to decide. Appointing a new government without dissolving the earlier is also legally unacceptable, knowing very well that such dissolution could only be made on the floor by a motion of no confidence,in this particular case. But, what can we say, the law can be interpreted in many ways and at the pleasure of the expert.
That's the issue and I say Tuanku erred.
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written by Concerned_Citizen, February 07, 2009 17:46:33
Yeah, not everyone into politics really to serve the people and this definitely happens UMNO/ BN. Only a partial that happens to be in PR. The only person that I really salute in the UMNO is Tan Sri Tengku Razaleigh. He is there to serve the people but I hope that he consider abandon BN and considering PR or stay independent. If he does, at least people will still have hope in this country.
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written by Susanna, February 07, 2009 17:51:57
As usual Pete, you are right to put things in perspective. The reason why we remain indignant is because of the double jeopardy and stabbing. One from the unscrupulous party which we kind of expect, well nothing surprising from a gang of corrupt and low class people but the greater stab from a respected ruler in such a sweeping, nonchalant dismissal of a good servant, that was hard to stomach and most hurting. Why want to respect when our protector fail us to let us choose the leaders we want. Wouldn't that eliminate to a greater extent the low class, untrustworthy candidates? I take comfort that whilst the unscrupulous can get away and triumph with dirty tactics, and a ruler who expound on justice but did not do in time of need, the justice will still be served by Allah for sure because He knows the hearts of men and their motives. They will have to account for their terrible deeds for sure.
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written by tmf, February 07, 2009 17:55:43
Dear Hellosunshine,
We would like to know the honest answer to your interesting question. Thanks for your kind observation.
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written by sorosapril, February 07, 2009 18:04:21
RPK three of the FROGS told the Sultan they would agree to the formation of the coalition government and signed letters, and now the same three FROGS told the same Sultan the same thing again about supporting the BN government, hmmmm, i wonder why the Sultan did not charge the three FROGS for going against their promise to him and how the Sultan can still believe the same pledge from the same three FROGS? I thought it is tantamount to sedition or treason against the Sultan?
So if i said something bad about the Sultan, i can be charged for sedition and also get you in trouble since i posted my comments in MT, then what about the three FROGS who went against the Sultan on their words???
Good lesson for all especially those in Pakatan Rakyat, learns from Toh Guru, he only got one seat majority, yet he came through without any problem at all, at least the PAS candidates are good and really practise what they preached.
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written by Bentoh, February 07, 2009 18:08:01
Oh my dear RPK... this is your worst ever writing to date...
So everything is DAP's fault... yeah...
So the Sultan is right... he did nothing wrong... yeah~
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written by orangmsia, February 07, 2009 18:10:48
RPK,
While a lot of people only blamed the DAP assemblywoman, we shouldnt forget the other 3 PKR assemblymen who crossed over to BN and caused the coup.
For this time I must praise PAS assemblymen&their supporters despite I dont really agree fully on their idea of Hudud law.
PR will win it back during the next election. I believe Najis&co. wont last long.
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written by Hope4all, February 07, 2009 18:12:56
You're in my prayers. Good luck in your next week's court proceedings. Your brave and selfless acts towards the betterment of this country at the expense of your own life put many anonymous warriors (like me) to shame.
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written by Super Admin, February 07, 2009 18:18:08
Bentoh, this article is meant for the English-speaking readers.
sorosapril, why not repeat what you said but with your full name, address and IC number this time? It is very easy to be seditious when you are hiding and can't get caught.
Mr Smith, I did not see any Chinese and Indians getting whacked by the police in Bukit Chandan yesterday. If it is a Malay conspiracy they should be rejoicing instead of protesting. Please stop this "we Chinese are being discriminated by you Malays" shit.
orangmsia, we can expect this from PKR scumbags but not from DAP people. DAP had the most number of seats in Perak, more than PKR and PAS combined. Hee blew that good and proper because she did not get a car.
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written by Msahibul56, February 07, 2009 18:19:04
I think DSAI has some of the Umno-shit in him after being in that party for so long. Unless he purged them all out - ego, fear of somebody smarter than him taking over the mantle of PKR, haughtiness, cronyism, nepotism and the malady that money can solve everything - I fear that PR will turn out to be just another BN.
Cleanse out the system, get rid off the deadwoods, dungus and kaki bodeks, from the ranks. Replace them with honest, intelligent, capable and creditable ones who place the rakyat above self and you have got a formidable front.
Otherwise, we will always be outfoxed by the master trickster and ever-conniving BN.
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written by fearless, February 07, 2009 18:19:18
All conscience minded bloggers, please start a SAY NO TO ZAMBRY campaign. I have designed three logos for you to download and put in your websites, blogs or even toilet.
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written by tmf, February 07, 2009 18:21:06
PAS in Kelantan survive with one seat majority and this honorable achivement is currently being used by DPM to predict that BN/UMNO can also survive in Perak. Will our dear Perakian prove him wrong?
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written by clarity, February 07, 2009 18:21:33
What you say is true because it happened. But what if it did not happen? What if yhe election commission did not intentionally or unintentionally erred in not accepting letters presented by the speaker. Then the seats would have to be declared vacant and PR could still contest.
However one thing is sure. PR may have lost this battle but they have won the war. BN will be wiprd out in the next GE because of what happened.
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written by pkrgulf, February 07, 2009 18:24:27
Dear RPK,
I know you may have not much to say but I just have 1 question for you...if the situation is the reverse in Perak...i.e PR toppling BN like what BN did, would it be ever allowed to happen? The issue here is fair play...PR cant keep the gates closed forever for thieves...whereas BN can do anything the like to grab power...
Like you said, let's learn from this...may Allah grant us the hikmah to win the war in GE..
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written by fearless, February 07, 2009 18:24:52
DS Anwar please stop your nonsense “katak” defection game first. You have toppled PBS state government with this dirty tactic when you were in UMNO.
Defection of any assemplypersons is against the will of rakyats who voted them in. PR stands no higher moral ground than BN in this “katak” game plan.
Let amend the constitution to have anti-hopping law to settle this “katak” game once and forever.
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written by Lim Lim, February 07, 2009 18:27:28
however,pete;question is would the sultan give consent should the pakatan government hav gone ahead with the pre-empting strike jus as what u said???
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written by JohnQ, February 07, 2009 18:35:33
DEAR PERAKIAN, Make Sure YOUR anger about this daylight robbery keep and last until NEXT GE!
For Crying out loud, DO KEEP a Alarm WakeUP Call on your handphone everyday at certain unique hour,minute and second to remind you this constitution and democracy raped day and moment.
May I suggest that this time should be 03:08:09 and the song is ... Pls suggest dear PERAKIAN!
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written by tmf, February 07, 2009 18:36:50
PR did not lose this round because of their ignorance in the rule of law. In fact PR lost in this round because they believed and trusted in the rule of law. PR should not have handicapped itself by religiously adhering to and hoping for the manifestation of the rule of law if they really know who they are really fighting against.
PR was simply not “street smart” any more after coming to power. I guess this is the lesson PR must learn from this episode.
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written by biggun129, February 07, 2009 18:38:59
Dear RPK,you better write whatever thing you feel and want to write, I know you are very frustrated, so, do I, but we had done what we can, and you better start writing to your satisfaction, please let go what everthing in your heart, so that you feel better, and for the next few days before 211,'Whack as much as possible and posted it on MT" cos you may not be able to write as freely as you are now, they are going to put you back to the Kamunting Resort, and I dont think they will allow you to carry your Laptop with you!Beware, Najib will do what everthing not to let you get loose this time again!!! Will, if that happen, worst come to worse, I will try to make more trips to visit you at Kamunting Resort! Take good care of yourself!!!
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written by Rozlan, February 07, 2009 18:40:57
PR is a newly formed coalition.So some bickering did happened.Even BN who had been arounfd for 50 yrs did have some bickering..It was not the bickering that DYMM Sultans care about..They were concern because UMNO was not in power..So when they feel they have the chances to installed UMNO back,they dont loose even a minute to do that.To the point they are makng blunder overiding the Constitution..
If DYMM sack MB of Perak in line with the Constitution by now I believes DYMM will sleep well by now with his integrity intact.Either PR was late to curb UMNO lies were not an issue...
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written by ireneyow, February 07, 2009 18:44:34
Mr. Smith, I totally agree with you, ONLY THE MALAYS (UMNO) are angry we get free hold titles.
Disolution of state assembly applied one week earlier will make no difference as our ruler will not approve after all.
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written by JohnQ, February 07, 2009 18:49:20
For quick remedy, all Perakian and candlelights holder around the country, just add one prayer in your wish lists , that is
" may few ADUN from the crook and crab coalition have heart attacks next few weeks so as to let the PERAKIANS decide again in by elections."
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written by truthbespoken, February 07, 2009 18:49:27
RPK,
Your body may be weak but your mind is strong and clear. Your message here is heartfelt and to the point. But as cabearth and a few others have said, the only hiccup is whether the Sultan would have agreed to the dissolution of the assembly even if a request was made earlier by the speaker. Or was it indeed a conspiracy already hatched between the two parties as suspected by many now? The public will probably never get the correct answer to that situation now. Anyway, water has passed under the bridge and we can only wait for the next opportune moment to strike back while keeping the momentum of the peoples' struggle alive and up all the time. RPK, may you recover from flu soon and may the force be with you always on your fight on the impending courts cases.
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written by rpremkumar2u, February 07, 2009 19:06:07
RPK has made a valid point. I don't agree with the notion that the KDDYMM PS Sultan would have interfered had the Pakatan the foresight as mentioned by Pete. Let's suppose for a moment that his HRH had refused the request, then, it would be AFTER THE FACT . That refusal would be a constitutional matter to be referred for judicial review. The error was that the Pakatan had underestimated the advice of Pete. One of the reason I have observed in Pete's instinct is that he made positive use of his solitary confinement during his ISA detention. He just got stronger like steel forged under the extreme repeated hammering thus gaining tensile strength. I make no apology in the terms of reference to metallurgy. He has got the discipline to drink milk which his wife brought and refusing food served therein by the authorities. I have been behind bars too and I was vindicated too. Pete has his plate full and we can gather immense support for him and share with him our synergy of prayer and well wishes. Pete will win. Period.
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written by arifabdull, February 07, 2009 19:07:24
"About a week ago, a few of us sat down to discuss the impending collapse of the Perak government. It was suggested we speak to the Pakatan Rakyat leaders, which we did."
Yes, I confirm you did told them to dissolve. http://arifabdull.blogsome.com...r-ibrahim/
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written by whoisthis, February 07, 2009 19:13:29
SO TRUE !!!
I even heard that some people in PKR were so upset that PAS got to be MB. So they decided to "buy" a Dato from UMNO who would then be the new MB from PKR.
PADAN MUKA !!!
Now neither PAS nor PKR gets to be MB - AND THE WINNER IS UMNO !!!
Now if PAS is so upset with this lost, they might just sell out to UMNO in Selangor to have a PAS MB in Selangor, before some from PKR/DAP crosses over.
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written by Kuku Burung, February 07, 2009 19:15:26
Now that nasi sudah jadi bubur, the PR should think deeply about their position, especially in relation to the palace. In the long run, what benefit is there if you fight the palace? Or even show some form of disrespect? The palace holds tremendous power apart from wealth. I am not saying we take it lying down. But my father used to say: "When you are down, it is easy to humble yourself. When you are ready to stand, make it a vital blow." What I am saying is, the PR will definitely win the next election, whatever it is -- by-election or statewide. You have the people's power. But you still need the palace power to take control.
My suggestion is to humbly admit you lost. [What RPK says is true, you guys were too sloppy]. Make an immediate apology to the Sultan, resign from government, as per Sultan's demand. Re patch your relationship with the palace. Play it cool and we will rise again the next time. Once we rise, we will have not only people, but also the palace on our side. This strategy I learnt from my wise father and Sun Tze's book of war.
My 2-half sen thought.
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written by malaysianohope, February 07, 2009 19:17:24
Abang,
It's understandable that you still feel that the Sultan should be left off the hook but I think otherwise. If he had weight the state of affair in depth that the 28:28 plus 3 dunggus is untenable whoever has the mandate. Under such circumstances the Perakians should be given the rights to decide who they want to govern the state ie a dissolution & re-election is the best option. By taking away the rights of Perakians the Sultan is playing politics!
Have said that I fully agree that Pakatan is seen as the victim of disceitful attempts by umno especially C4 and Malaysians voters will not forgive them come GE13. Since C4 has opened a can of worms AI should double up on getting barisan candidates to crossover at Federal level with the aim of taking over government which is a delicious prize.
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written by ScooL, February 07, 2009 19:27:24
Thanks RPK.
Is good lesson for us, just don't blindly support the leader to prevent PR become another BN ....
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written by OutsideLookingIn, February 07, 2009 19:45:28
Very well written, RPK. I was getting rather disappointed about this site the entirely one sided comments over the last two days. Yes, I can see that there are many supporters of the PKR on this site. It is sad though that many cannot see the principles of fairness and integrity in democracry. As RPK as mentioned, it is important that AI and PKR et al needs to learn from the Perak saga.
I would do what the Sultan has done if I was in his shoes. It is easy to take "popular" decision but much harder to make unpopular decisions when you are in a position to make them. Yes, we can argue about whether he has the authority or not to do what he do but PKR and their leaders have really stuffed up big time and they have to learn from Perak. They won't have a similar chance at the national level in the next election.
You either support hopping or you don't. Don't cry foul if someone else do what you were hoping to do. A principle leader would ask the Bota assmblyman to go back to where he came from in the first place.
There is favouritism in the (old) Perak government. If you can't keep your members happy, don't complain if others pinch them. That's life. I made similar comments in a different post before RPK's article and was shouted down. As ScooL mentioned, don't blindly support PR lest they become another BN. Some of yo are beginning to sound and behave like the BN supporters.
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written by Loh, February 07, 2009 19:53:12
///Mohd Ali Rustam, contender of Deputy President of UMNO said that Nizar should accept the outcome in Perak as one based on the democratic process and respect for Sultan Azlan Shah’s position.
Najib said should there be any disputes on the appointment {of MB from BN}, the remedy is to go to court. He said “it does not matter what we feel because it is the sultan’s prerogative to decide under the Federal (state?) Constitution./// -- The Star
Najib may soon be the PM and it would be his duty to uphold the Federal Constitution. As the UMNO Chief of UMNO for Perak and the state government he would also be responsible to uphold the state constitution. The persons who are responsible to uphold the constitution need to understand what the constitution provides, pertaining to the relevant issues, even though they are not expected to be able to argue cases in court. The state constitution provides for specific actions in the event that the Mentri Besar ceases to enjoy the majority of the votes of the State Legislative Assembly. For ease of reference, the two relevant sections are reproduced here under:
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Article 16 (6) of the Perak state constitution reads: “If the MB ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly, then, unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.”
Article 16 (7) reads: “Subject to Clause (6) a member of the Executive Council other than the MB shall hold office at His Royal Highness’ pleasure, but any member of the Council may at any time resign his office.”
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In the event that the Mentri Besar ceases to enjoy majority support in the Legislative Assembly, however determined, he can be removed in three ways. He can resign, he can be dismissed, and his post as the Mentri Besar can be removed by having the Legislative Assembly dissolved. Since it was specifically mentioned in Article 16(7) that the Mentri Besar was not subject to hold office at His Royal Highness’ pleasure, the MB cannot be dismissed, and he need not follow the advice of the Sultan to resign. So, there are two alternatives to removing the Mentri Besar in that event; either the Mentri Besar resigns, or the State Assembly was dissolved when the letter of resignation was not forthcoming, and the Highness has been requested to dissolve the LA.
The Mentri Besar announced publicly on Thursday 5th February 2009 that he had not resigned and that the Highness would announce his decision soon. It should be clear to Najib that the only constitutional course of action for the Sultan was to announce the dissolution of the Perak State Assembly. Yet, Najib was competing for time to announce that the BN had acquired the required number of kataks so that a majority of seats in the LA would be occupied by BN. That misled the Royal Highness into taking into consideration matter beyond what had been provided by the state constitution. The Sultan subsequently appointed a second Mentri Besar for Perak, and declared that the Mentri Besar was ordered to resign. The actions were ultra vires to Article 16 of the Perak state constitution.
To ensure that decision made ultra vires of the state constitution is fait accompli, UMNO leaders threatened Pakatan government to accept the action as though the Sultan has the right to take action ultra vires of the constitution, and that those actions cannot be challenged. That was why Mohd Ali suggested that Nizar should respect the Sultan’s decision. He was clear that he had no ground to ask Nazir to respect the constitution.
Having contributed to the Sultan making the decision he hoped for, Najib now places the Sultan in a position for legal challenge. He attributed full responsibility to the Sultan, after having involved his highness in politics..
The education Minister, Kerismuddin said that other Pakatan government will also be taken over soon. He too does not respect state constitution, and he believes that UMNO can involve the royal houses to do their bidding, just like what happened in Perak.
Are the leaders in UMNO aware of the basic tenets of rule of law?
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written by Horizonline, February 07, 2009 20:11:50
I hate 1 sided comments. And that's what I read in this website since 2 days ago. If you keep on whining and blame the other parties, then you are no different from those umno goons. rpk is right, we may have lose the battle, but we have not lose the war. don't talk about why should you win in the battle that you have lose. instead ask yourself how you will win in the next battle. i don't like the certain quarters that blame the monarchy for all of these things. it is not their fault. plese see yourself in the mirror first before you start complaining. umno is a party of dogs, but pr is not perfect either. take this as a lesson and be sure to win next time.
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written by Bloodhound, February 07, 2009 20:21:49
http://www.thenutgraph.com/perak-must-not-fail
With the illegal installation/appointment of the BN team when the incumbent is still legally recognised, the crisis has now degenerated into a "COUP"
Najib had just undertaken a coup in the state of Perak.
Read this:
http://www.thenutgraph.com/perak-must-not-fail
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written by DezMalaysia, February 07, 2009 20:29:10
Wish you a speed recovery RPK.
And, I am quite agreed with your points regarding the internal fightings & prostitutes in PR.
It's sad...
Anyway, every setback is a chance for victory. We will keep the fire up~
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written by SiHangChai, February 07, 2009 20:35:57
EVERYONE, JUST WATCH THE TV3 8PM NEWS TODAY VERY INTERESTING COMMENT BY NAJIS BY QUOTING THAT THE KELANTAN GOVT UNDER PAS IN THE PAST HAS SURVIVED BY 1 MAJORITY ADUN, SO CAN THE NEW PERAK GOVT. @%$#%@!
DEAR ADUN JELAPANG, HEE 'the traitor',
JUST AS YOU THINK THAT BY CROSSING OVER AS INDEPENDENT BY ALLIANCE TO ******* BN DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WILL BE TREATED SPECIAL. READ WHAT NAJIS HAS SAID IN THE TV3 NEWS. THEY ARE PREPARED IF YOU JUMP AGAIN AND DON'T SUPPORT ******* BN.
WHAT DID NAJIS TELL US, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER BY-PASSENGE. NOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE USE OF YOU AND LTIED TO SULTAN PERAK ON THE MAJORITY ADUN TO TOPPLE PKR, THEY ALREADY TOLD THAT YOU ARE NO USE TO THEM ALREADY. YOU ARE BETRAYED THE WHOLE RAKYAT WHO BACKED YOU AS DAP/PKR ADUN, AND WORST, YOU BACKSTABBED THE CHINESE COMMUNITY.
MY BEST LUCK TO YOU AS YOU WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS TRAITOR, NOTHING BUT A TRAITOR EVEN IF YOU GO BACK TO DAP/PKR. THE BEST IS THAT YOU RESIGN AS ADUN AND LET THE WHOLE EPISODE CLOSE, AND LET THE COMMUNITY TO WORK WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHOM THEY CAN TRUST.
ADUN HEE, MY ONLY COMMENT TO YOU BUT NOT AS AN ADVICE IS THAT NAJIS HAS TREATED YOU LIKE NAJIS ADUN AND HAS NO VALUE BUT LIKE A WHORE. I WOULD NOT BACK DOWN MY STATEMENT ON THIS AFTER HEARING WHAT NAJIS HAD SAID OVER IN TV3 8PM NEWS.
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written by Old Man, February 07, 2009 20:39:11
Sir RPK, your articles were always written without fear or favor. DSAI applied the wrong strategy of cross-overs by the MPs. He had succeeded against PBS when he was in UMNO but old habits die hard. "Frog politics" are morally wrong and are even lower than prostitution! DSAI fell into his own 'trap'! Why blame the Sultan and his son when DSAI was the one who had always talk about numbers of MPs crossing over to PR from BN? If the politics of Race and Religion were to stop then shall we see a new Malaysia. Perhaps they should allow Mr Karpal Singh or Mr Lim Kit Siang to be the leader of PR. Who shall be PM of Malaysia when / if PR takes over should be decided by all Citizens of Malaysia, not the MPs. Therefore, before the next GE and/or the next group of "FROGS" start to jump and/or cross-over, PKR, DAP & PAS should formulate a common strategy. Even if an old man like me were to offer my ideas to them, DSAI will think that I'm nothing but a senile old man! smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by Blackgiring, February 07, 2009 20:42:11
...what more to say PR supporters??? just shut up and behave like true gentleman...
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written by archie, February 07, 2009 20:42:35
There's still the question of whether the resignations of the two ex-PKR assemblymen were valid.
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written by thumb, February 07, 2009 20:43:11
You have hit the nail right on the head Mr.Smith _"One must be real dumb to assume the sultan knew nothing about the goings-on in the state and UMNO's attempt to buy reps.
To put it bluntly, the Malays in Perak were unhappy with a Chinese majority government and even more angry that they were going to get land titles. UMNO had to put an end to that. Come on, sir, this was a conspiracy."
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written by DezMalaysia, February 07, 2009 20:48:25
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written by Kopi37, February 07, 2009 20:52:51
Good medicines are always bitter and only good doctor will give bitter medicines, the clever patient will not them all in a swallow! Only stupid patient will prefer to take sweet syrup and will curse the good doctor for giving him bitterness!
It all depends on the so-called PR, which we supported, to bite the bitter pills and repent to prove their sincerity in fostering true statesmanship and work in close rapport with their comrades and associates in the coalition or be kicked out once more in the subsequent battle, or even the war come next election! The rakyat are yearning for change and new look of political landscapes and have less or no interest to portray someone the Hero, place him or her in the altar and pray as the Deity! We vote them in to be our servants and be the slaves for the Nation! Those low mentality polio, lusty and greedy pigs or bitch have no place in our ambit of choice, they will be vanished! smilies/angry.gif
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written by ploon, February 07, 2009 20:53:11
RPK, you tell it like it is, man. This is what sets you apart from mere mortals like us. You see what we can't see and say what we don't know how to say. You deserve all the accolade and hero-worship bestowed on you. God bless you and may He keep you out of jail and from the clutches of evil.
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written by DreamLady, February 07, 2009 21:00:23
Good evening, Raja petra, you are upset, I know how you feel about the whole episode. The priority at this moment is your health and mental state of mind. For once, let these people ( the goons and PR) go flying their kites at whichever they fancy. Your health and peace of mind should be your concern at this hour.
Take some time off to enjoy the fresh air with your family....they would be thrilled to have you all to themselves.....
Take good care, I do care alot about your well-being. Please, keep yourself well, ok!! Good nite!!
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written by milestone, February 07, 2009 21:06:23
Salam and Dear ALL; PR and BR Supporters
Mr.Pete, I would highly suggesting that PR to form centralize of Political Strategy Council which compromise each party political strategy leader and you as reps from BR bloggers.
Again as I said, different point of view will be always on the table; but we have again to find common understanding before we move on. PERHAPS then the strategy council can voice out to the PR leaders for their decision. I believe this is crucial.
AND for PR, Please built the "right highway" for BR blogger REPS to channel the concern formally.!!!
Mr. Pete, we are fighthing with DIRTY regime; I do believe we should setup formal channel of communication to source into the PR!!! I will do my part directly by emailing to them.. accepted or not is not my job; as grassroot person I always think of "DO" more than command!!!
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written by Liberace, February 07, 2009 21:13:35
True, it's too late. True, we were naive. True, Pakatan made fatal mistakes. But it does not mean we have to hold our peace over the outrageously callous actions of BN and the Sultan to install a government against the expressed wishes of the people. If we shut up and walk away with our tail between our legs, BN will be emboldened. A strong reaction is absolutely necessary to make BN and the sultanate think of the cost of bulldozing their way through.
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written by Anak Kampung, February 07, 2009 21:13:40
1. It is easy to say we need better candidates --- that is painfully obvious. But where are they going to come from? The ranks are very thin in the opposition. Perhaps that's because most of them just log on to Malaysia Today and complain instead of standing for election or doing something useful.
2. The letters the ADUN signed to support the PR government. Are they not legally binding?
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written by Grasshopper, February 07, 2009 21:17:39
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise this is an own goal by BN (unless of course you undergone a lobotomy to join BN). If any elections were to be held today, by-election or otherwise, BN 'safe seat' or otherswise, BN will not stand a chance in hell of winning, the rakyat will teach them a lesson.
Maybe the Sultan is smarter than anyone gives him credit for, if he were to disslove the State Assembly tomorrow and hold fresh elections, BN will lose all seats.
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written by Fart Fart Wah, February 07, 2009 21:21:48
Well said...
do not elect ..prostitute politicians
problem is RPK we do not have the ability to screen the prostitute politicians
I want to puke......sorry..
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written by Fart Fart Wah, February 07, 2009 21:21:48
Well said...
do not elect ..prostitute politicians
problem is RPK we do not have the ability to screen the prostitute politicians
I want to puke......sorry..
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written by JaguhKampung, February 07, 2009 21:22:53
Did the Sultan take side?
When Pakatan Rakyat won the Perak state government with a 3 seats majority in March 2008 (31 - 2smilies/cool.gif, the Sultan had took more than a week to finally decide who is the government.
This time, Barisan did not even have a majority. It was a tie (28-28-3) with 3 independents they claimed to be leaning to their side. The Sultan decided that Barisan had the majority of the state assembly within one day!
http://jaguhkampung.blogspot.c...-side.html
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written by tgalexei, February 07, 2009 21:24:54
A car to bring our rakyat's achievement to an end!
What a shame...
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written by Alice, February 07, 2009 21:28:42
She should be given the next Ma'al Hijrah award and be accorded Bumiputera status
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gOOD THAT YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOUR RPK.
TAKE IT EASY AND GOD WILL GUIDE YOU ON.
TAKE CARE RPK. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by ploon, February 07, 2009 21:29:07
A car! A car! Our kingdom for a car!
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written by Alice, February 07, 2009 21:36:56
THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HEE THAT BLOODY CAMRY!
THAT BLOODY HEE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A CAMRY!
I REALLY DON'T IF I SHOULD BE ANGRY WITH THE CAMRY OR HEE !
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written by teo siew chin, February 07, 2009 21:38:31
"...A Chinese made the restoration of maruah Melayu (Malay dignity)possible..."
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errrr...who was calling the chinese 'kingmakers'? smilies/wink.gif
oh well - "rather lose with honour than win by fraud."
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written by teo siew chin, February 07, 2009 21:38:31
"...A Chinese made the restoration of maruah Melayu (Malay dignity)possible..."
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errrr...who was calling the chinese 'kingmakers'? smilies/wink.gif
oh well - "rather lose with honour than win by fraud."
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written by sahabat, February 07, 2009 21:53:11
PBS is accusing Anwar for his role in the down fall of PBS in 1994. This is only their assumption. What does Herbert Timbon know about it as during that time Herbert was the Deputy President SIB.
Does Herbert Timbon know that Pairin Kitingan bought 2 Berjaya YBs (Bahrom Titingan/Lau Pui Keong) and 2 USNO YBs (Saman Gulam/Siptang YB) to defect to PBS in 1985?
Before rejoining BN were Pairin, Maximus, Yee Moo Chai, Radin, Edward Yong, Johnny Mositun and Herbert Timbon not so critical to UMNO? Even dogs could not eat the words of curse from these PBS leaders to UMNO but now they are eating UMNO's stool. No shame.
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written by ktchye, February 07, 2009 22:02:48
What RPK has written is mostly right. But one thing that needs to be pointed out is that our rulers have of late been given too much power to decide on political matters, which is not their original brief. Let us not forget that ours is a constitutional monarchy in which the sultans, and the King as well, are supposed to play a purely formal role in politics. Because our political rulers, namely, Abdullah Badawi and gang, were weak right after the March 8 bust-up, they allowed the rulers of a few states to act beyond their constitutional brief and raised no protest over it. That was wrong; it opened the door for further misuse of position.
The Sultan of Perak appears to have been high-handed in asking Nizar to resign. I agree with what Loyarburok has written:
http://www.loyarburok.com/the-system/the-real-question-on-perak/
"Regarding the legality of the Sultan’s decision to call for the resignation of the Menteri Besar (MB), I am prepared to say that the decision is wrong in law. Based on the Perak Constitution, the MB does not hold office at the pleasure of the Sultan.
The only way the MB goes is by way of a no-confidence motion in the State Legislative Assembly. The Sultan cannot just ask MB to vacate his office.
Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution states that:
If the Menteri Besar ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly, then, unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.
The question then is: who decides whether the MB ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the State Legislative Assembly? Should it be the Sultan or the State Legislative Assembly? How and where should such issues be decided?
The answers to these questions are obvious. Matters of grave importance that affect the interests of the State should be decided in the hall of the State Legislative Assembly, NOT along the corridors or halls of the palace."
It may be that the Sultan chose to interpret Article 16(6) thus -- after speaking to the ADUN who had turned independent, he was convinced that the Menteri Besar ceased to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly, and therefore he could declare that BN could now take over the government and Nizar would have to resign as MB -- but he could have waited for due process to be followed, i.e. allow for that no-confidence to be expressed in the Legislative Assembly first. What was the hurry, anyway?
The whole transfer of power looked like it was done in haste. Which, when compared to the long time it took for the Sultan to eventually swear in the new MB (Nizar) and his Exco after March 8 (a process that took nearly 2 weeks) , seems odd.
I think our Parliamentarians should seriously consider this issue of palace intervention in politics and restore the rightful practice before it gets further compromised.
Kee Thuan Chye
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written by ganbing, February 07, 2009 22:06:36
1)About getting quality candidates to contest, this is easier said than done. Who knows what goes in the hearts of men and women? Remember that Hee woman was a DAP member for 20 years. Shouldn’t she be a pretty safe bet?
2)Then again PR did not expect to win so big in March 8. PR didn’t even exist before March 8. Hence many of their candidates were simply roped in including the ex-postman and ex-soldier and not expected to win. I’m sure PR will vet their candidates properly now.
3)If Nizar had gone to see the Sultan to dissolve the assembly while still holding the majority, the Sultan may have no constitutional right to refuse. This is a not a case of losing confidence in which the Sultan retains discretion but wanting to call early elections. No monarch has the right to refuse dissolution for elections or it would play havoc with the democratic process.
4)The states of Selangor, Kedah and Penang should bear this in mind if their governments are threatened. There are always plenty of signs before the actual coup takes place.
5)However I can’t really blame PR for the lack of foresight. The fact that the Sultan of Perak who has always taken the moral high ground of good governance will take part in political play instead of deciding impartially is a shock to most of us.
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written by panca, February 07, 2009 22:10:37
Yes Bro Pete,
like I commented ealier...Pimp and Prostitutes.
Umno is 'filthy' rich. Pimp and pimping, so don't blame the pimp, the prostitutes are easily drawn to diamond studded pimp that at anytime crap 'najis' in your constituents. So beware your state of 'affairs'.
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written by ganbing, February 07, 2009 22:11:31
"... but he could have waited for due process to be followed, i.e. allow for that no-confidence to be expressed in the Legislative Assembly first. What was the hurry, anyway?"
A motion of no confidence will not pass in the Legislative Assembly as the speaker had declared the seats of the 3 defectors vacant and hence ineligible to vote. That was why it had to be done by this high handed way.
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written by Rozlan, February 07, 2009 22:30:58
If Tuanku Sultan Perak want to "murka" about the mess he is in..He should blame Najib and all Perak UMNO leaders who coaxed him to make the blunder.The blunder which put him to shame.A blunder which was not suppose to be made by one of the country best Lord President..So Idont see why Tuanku want to murka to YAB DS Ahmad Nizar...He had never betray Tuanku and the Perakians.The best Perak MB we ever had
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written by Msahibul56, February 07, 2009 22:31:11
We should have candidates like you, RPK.
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written by Wave33, February 07, 2009 22:37:18
I said it before and I am saying it again. It is Lim Kit Siang (LKS) fault. His arrogance after opposition won 5 states. LKS time is up, it is time for him to retire and let the younger politican take over. Why?
RPK had advised, but being LKS, he will not listen. He made so much statements after the 8th Mar, that do not sound like a government official. Insulted the Sultan, before doing his homework, barking away. Barking on trivial matters.
How many times has he come for the anti-ISA vigil in PJ? In Perak state, where is his initiative to conduct an anti-ISA vigil, like what PJ did? Perhaps he enjoyed going back to Kamunting for a publicity stunt. LKS has not waken up from his talk and talking opposition days, just oppose and talk. Being in a government is still a dream in him that his system cannot compute after being donkey years as opposition. Please retire, we appreciate what LKS has done in the pass but his style is not needed anymore now. Retire in grace before creating more blunders.
A lot cannot comprehend why the Sultan did not dissolve the state government. My view, the Sultan vengeance on LKS "questioning" episodes after March 8th. It is time to show who is the boss. I hope LKS has regretted his action, opps... I mean his uncontrollable mouth that create this unpleasent feeling which has resurface again at a convenient time to LKS dismay.
Daulat Tuanku!
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written by cble, February 07, 2009 22:39:35
100 peratus bersetuju dengan pandapat RPK. Berkemungkinan besar PKR ketika pemilu ke 12 amat sukar untuk mendapat calon2 dari keturunan melayu yang profesional kerana mereka ini takut hendak melawan arus kerana majoritinya bertuhankan UMNOputrea untuk mendapat rezki yang lumayang. Desababkan demekian, mereka terpaksa meletak calon melayu yang half past six kerana keadaan.
Wbp dengan kemenangan yang dicapai pada pemilu lepas, InsyaALLAH, pada pemilu 13 nanti sudah pasti PKR dapat mengemukakan calon2 melayu yang berkualiti. Beegitulah harapan kami sebagai rakyaat Malaysia
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written by lobster, February 07, 2009 22:46:51
RPK, I was nodding all the way while reading your article. By the way, good luck with your court cases and take care.
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written by RungutanSiAhPek, February 07, 2009 22:52:14
Based on details in RPT’s article, it is clear that the HRH Sultan of Perak had gone through the necessary and rigorous exercise in vetting the solidarity of the DAP-PKR-PAS coalition party post the 2008 election, and had been convinced that the Pakatan coalition commands the confidence of the majority of the electorate. Simple as it may seems to many, it is not an overly trivial question to ask for the basis or bases of His Highness’ then decision? Is it based the total vote counts for the respective parties (the so-called “popular votes”), the number of Assemblymen by the proposed coalition or some obscure gauge of judging which party had the confidence of the majority? Is it not clear then, and is it not clear now that the main consideration was the number of Assemblymen (which obviously had to be in the majority) of the proposed coalition.
The issue at hand now is whether party hoppers (which are not illegal in the eyes of the law) which had since tilted the majority counts in the Perak State Assembly to the opposition party (then UMNO/BN), thus paving for a change of the Perak State government, OR that there had been no distinct change of the wishes and aspirations of the people and therefore the move by UMNO/BN should not be sanctioned (by all the legal entities of the state be it the Sultanate, Judiciary, civil service, police, FRU dll), OR the situation is so uncertain that it is best for the Rakyat to decide (which will warrant the resolution of the Assembly). Unfortunately, this question is a moot point, as HRH Sultan of Perak had already made clear his decision. Without the benefit of an open and direct revelation by His Majesty, we can only ponder and guess the reasons for his decision. There are many in the Pakatan camp who believe that His Majesty had erred in his judgment, and directly benefitted the UMNO-led party. However one has to beg the question: if the original determinant for choosing the governing party was the number of Assemblymen, should not this determinant be used in the current incident ? Seat buying is undeniably detestable, and I am sure His Majesty will have nothing to do with such deplorable act but can someone please guide how His Majesty can reliably sought to verify the existence of this RM$10-15m booty ! Also, how can His Highness sought to verify that the hearts and minds of the electorate has remained unchanged and still lies with the Pakatan coalition. Maybe (which means I can be wrong !), His majesty just had to rely on original determinant which happened to be a measurable and quantifiable measure i.e. the counts of Assemblymen. Whatever His Majesty’s thoughts are, to me it is a moot point now. RPT, I agree with you: Pakatan Rakyat in Perak should have called the HRH to dissolve the Assembly while they had the opportunity but this is now a moot point. No point discussing moot points. It is far more important for the Pakatan leaders to look inwards and question where and what they had fallen short. RPT had so clearly outlined these in his article above, So no need for anyone to reiterate. Just read them by heart and spread the message around! Pakatan Leaders : The ball is in in yr court to act!
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written by Mr Smith, February 07, 2009 22:52:32
Raja, you could be wrong, very wrong.
If only it was as simple as that.
Raja, allow me to explain why you could be wrong. Do you think UMNO did not know that a dissolution was on the cards. Yes, they did. That was why they sent their mole, Nasarudin, to cross over to give Pakatan a false sense of hope and confidence. Nasarudin even claimed that more BN were waiting to cross over, which was again to preempt such a move. Why dissolve the assembly when you had a 5 vote majority?
Remember Anwar said he never urged Nasarudin to cross over but it was Nasarudin who visited him to make known his intentions to join Pakatan. Also bear in mind that Nasarudin did not leave UMNO when he crossed over. He was still an UMNO member.
Then again, if Pakatan leaders were to take your advise and call for a vote to dissolve the Assembly what makes you think that Jamaludin, Osman and Hee would have supported the motion? What makes you think Nasarudin would have voted with Pakatan? He was a Trojan Horse, remember?
UMNO found its quarry in Jamaludin,Osman and Hee because they were the weak links in Pakatan and easy for the pick.
Most probably the trio were already bought over much earlier but allowed to stay on in Pakatan till the "right time".
OK. Forget the scenario above. What makes you think the sultan would have consented to the dissolution of the assembly? He would have rejected the MB's request as he was for a BN government. What makes you think that the sultan who could sack the MB unconstitutionally would accede to his request to dissolve the assembly.
The sultan and Najib know fully well that a snap election would spell the total annihilation of BN in Perak. Would they allow it to happen? What would happen to Gamuda?
Put all the pieces together and you will see an evil conspiracy.
As of today, in Malaysia, Might is Right. People who are defending democracy are being gassed and made into villeins. How could we condone this coup and wait for the General Elections to hit back?
I admire MB Nizar for grit and determination in stand up against this Mighty tyrants who are no better than the Jews.
http://mrsimth2.blogspot.com/
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written by Daryl, February 07, 2009 23:04:07
Actually, the Perak and Selangor Rulers were worried that the Pakatan Rakyat state governments of these two states would not last, in particular in Perak, which had a very slim majority. That is why there was a week’s delay in swearing in the Perak and Selangor state governments.
I disagree with this statement. Why do they have doubt about these coalition? If it failed how does it bother the royalty when they still receive free money from rakyat and remember not "BN". Now with BN being the slim majority why is he not worried... what happened if one of this ADUN go crazy because he/she can steal money again or receive heart attack while playing bedminton... than what? Bias royalty is what is it... but the fault is not the four and it exposed the weakness in the palace.
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written by Daryl, February 07, 2009 23:05:04
sorry "fault is with the four and it exposed the weakness in the palace."
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written by James Loh, February 07, 2009 23:06:53
I totally agree with Raja Petra that we loose and we must admit to it. It takes Nabi Muhammad so many years to reach Mekah. Pakatan Rakyat need to realize that they need to select principle candidate next time. I've always admire PAS leaders and organization a lot. Though some of them makes statement that scares me but they've very discipline group. I think DAP and Keadilan needs to learn a lot from PAS. It's time for ANWAR AND LIM GUAN ENG talk to Nik Aziz and Hadi Awang. Learn from them and focus the few PAKATAN STATES. The good will always prevail. We must admit our mistakes like gentlemen. I always like Pakatan Rakyat Perak MB but I think he should step down though technically he's still our leader. There will always be next time. Let's focus on improve Pakatan Rakyat constituency and build up a stronger base. We shall prevail again! The RAKYAT will remember that UMNO betrayed the people!
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written by JaguhKampung, February 07, 2009 23:17:27
A car!? She left DAP because she didn't get the Camry!? Can she drive? Can this be true? smilies/shocked.gif smilies/shocked.gif smilies/shocked.gif
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written by tumbledore, February 07, 2009 23:24:05
Toyota Camry??
for that stupid car!?
it's high time toyota stopped
producing camrys.
Perak fiasco is a bad advertisement
for it.
dear Pete, please don't be offended
when people are clueless and frustrated
they look up to someone who can say something
to ease their pain.
you have become maybe, unwillingly, their
anchor, who they believe know whats right
or wrong in this mayhem. if your article
has appeared earlier, even I would have been
consoled. please get well soon. and wish
you a lot of luck in court.
I heard people saying that you could
get addicted to prison life
- so don't get hooked smilies/wink.gif
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written by Janaka, February 07, 2009 23:35:58
The Prostitute of Jelapang did not get the car. Now she want to punished herself by prostituting her SHITHOLE by letting SHITFOOL of AMNO sodomised UP&DOWN to SHOW her sodomasation satisfaction.
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written by James Loh, February 07, 2009 23:36:12
These are the seats Pakatan Rakyat hold
Penang: DAP 19, PKR 9, PAS 1
PERAK: DAP 16, PAS 6, PKR 5
These showed that Pakatan Rakyat needs to increase Malay candidates to win over UMNO seats for next General Election. Should Anwar start lay ground work now? We need to do it now. As long as UMNO remain strong, we can never have strong state government. Let's focus on winning the heart and mind of UMNO voters.
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