Wednesday, February 4, 2009

MT: How to bring a government down

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The Perak Menteri Besar has just had his audience with His Highness the Sultan of Perak to request Tuanku’s consent to dissolve the Perak State Assembly. It seems the Sultan wants to ‘think about it’ first and will probably make his decision after seeing Deputy Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak tomorrow. Maybe, while Tuanku is at it, he can also think about the following.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Westminster system

The Westminster system is a democratic parliamentary system of government modelled after the British government (the Parliament of the United Kingdom). The term comes from the Palace of Westminster, the seat of the UK Parliament.

The system is a series of procedures for operating a legislature. It is used, or was once used, in the national legislatures and sub-national legislatures of most Commonwealth and ex-Commonwealth nations, beginning with the Canadian provinces and Australian colonies in the mid-19th century. There are other parliamentary systems whose procedures differ considerably from the Westminster system.

Key characteristics

Important features of the Westminster system include the following, although not all of the following aspects have been preserved in every Westminster-derived system:

    * a sovereign or head of state who is the nominal or theoretical holder of executive power, and holds numerous reserve powers, but whose daily duties mainly consist of performing the role of a ceremonial figurehead. Examples include the British monarch, the presidents of many countries and state/provincial governors in federal systems.

    * a head of government (or head of the executive), known as the prime minister (PM), premier or first minister, who is officially appointed by the head of state. In practice, the head of government is almost always the leader of the largest elected party in parliament.

    * a de facto executive branch usually made up of members of the legislature with the senior members of the executive in a cabinet led by the head of government; such members execute executive authority on behalf of the nominal or theoretical executive authority.

    * parliamentary opposition (a multi-party system).

    * an elected legislature, often bicameral, in which at least one house is elected, although unicameral systems also exist; legislative members are usually elected by district in first-past-the-post elections (as opposed to country-wide proportional representation).(In this case, New Zealand presents an interesting change given its shift to proportional representation.)

    * a lower house of parliament with an ability to dismiss a government by "withholding (or blocking) Supply" (rejecting a budget), passing a motion of no confidence, or defeating a confidence motion. The Westminster system enables a government to be defeated, or forced into a general election, independently of a new government being chosen.

    * a parliament which can be dissolved and elections called at any time.

    * parliamentary privilege, which allows the Legislature to discuss any issue deemed by itself to be relevant, without fear of consequences stemming from defamatory statements or records thereof.

    * minutes of meetings, often known as Hansard, including an ability for the legislature to strike discussion from these minutes.

Most of the procedures of the Westminster system have originated with the conventions, practices and precedents of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, which are a part of what is known as the Constitution of the United Kingdom. Unlike the unwritten British constitution, most countries that use the Westminster system have codified the system in a written constitution.

However, uncodified conventions, practices and precedents continue to play a significant role in most countries, as many constitutions do not specify important elements of procedure: for example, some older constitutions using the Westminster system do not mention the existence of the cabinet and/or the prime minister, because these offices were taken for granted by the authors of these constitutions.

A motion of no confidence (alternatively vote of no confidence, censure motion, no-confidence motion, or confidence motion) is a parliamentary motion traditionally put before a parliament by the opposition in the hope of defeating or weakening a government, or, rarely by an erstwhile supporter who has lost confidence in the government. The motion is passed or rejected by means of a new parliamentary vote (a vote of no confidence).

Typically, when parliament votes no confidence, or where it fails to vote confidence, a government must respond in one of two ways:

    * resign

    * seek a parliamentary dissolution and request a general election

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written by ibabonma, February 04, 2009 19:09:19
I am saying it out loud and clear, one DYMM was saved from the Japanese brutality by my late father, a pre merdeka hero, and I am his son.

The water in a kerosene tin was about to be poured by way of a hose into his stomach when the Japanese told my father, "Apa anak raja?". But he managed to convince the Japanese troops to allow him to go free and his is a DYMM now!

This, I was told by my late father and I have no reason to doubt! He received only $300 banana currency, Japanese RM printed Malaysia.

Now his son is asking a favor, dissolve the Assembly. Nothing more, not even a square foot of the state land or a liner foot of timber.
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written by indianputra, February 04, 2009 19:11:57
The worst scums of society, the 4 PR Assemblymen who turned towards BN today, should be stoned wherever they are seen. How much was it, 1 million, 2 million or 5 million? - whatever it is, you are the dirt of Malaysia, the filth of Malaysia and you 4 have lost the respect of everey single normal thinking Malaysian.

People, please shun these 4 stupid, ungrateful traitors. Kick them if you can!!
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written by DatoSeri, February 04, 2009 19:12:24
RPK,
Thanks for the lesson, and we all hope HRH does not buy the shit of UMNO/BN. It is crystal clear of their ill intention and crooked acts.

We the rakyat with conscience must not give up. We must continue to stand firm on our ground to bring the justice and citizen's rights back to all Malaysians.

Rescue Malaysia!
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 19:14:31
Crooks must not be allow their way of doing things and they are not eligible to seek audiences with the Sultan.They steal while PR win through ballot boxes.
The learned Sultan knows too well what DEMOCRACY means and he will make decisions in the best interest of the rakyats.
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written by yapsir, February 04, 2009 19:15:38
Save Malaysia by saving Perak!
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written by patycy, February 04, 2009 19:17:10
Someone created a new entry in wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hee_Yit_Foong
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 19:18:38
Dear Your Highness,

The people's vote is most sacred and it's your hope that that your rakyat wishes are duly respected.Don't be influence by those who are greedy for power through unlawful means.The rakyat have spoken loud and clear and let us not soften their voices.I urge you ,our Highness,to speak for the people.
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written by Zym Zym, February 04, 2009 19:18:50
I doubt the sultan will consent to the dissolution of the state government. He and his family have too much stake in the public listed companies. Prove us wrong Tuanku!
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written by Mark C, February 04, 2009 19:20:35
this is infact a bleak day for all Malaysians. It's raining heavily and even the heavens are crying for us.

The tactic of UMNO to strong-arm the opposition in every aspect, hindering humane governance by the Pakatan Coalition, using the judiciary, the election commission, rakyat's hard earned tax dollars and all manner and branches of the government to cheat the PR government out of the the mandate we, the rakyat had given to PR.

Come GE13, all will be repaid in full by the rakyat.
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written by Ulan Benson, February 04, 2009 19:22:51
The decision by the DYMM is crucial...dissolve the assembly and let the people decide. Otherwise, the young generation will be taught that $$$ is everything and moral is no longer an issue.

To the those 3 independent, you have sold your souls to the devils. For these ill gotten gains, you will be cursed for generation...
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written by DatoSeri, February 04, 2009 19:23:26
patycy, thanks for the wikipedia entry, but it is incomplete, should include more of the person's information and the facts happening to the persons, also should refrain from vulgarity. that way, people will forever remember what the person's contribution to the society/state/country.
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written by Hakim Joe, February 04, 2009 19:25:45
Didn't Sultan Azlan Shah just said that "Misdeeds will spell downfall for monarchy"?
(The Star - today)
Will this be the beginning of the end for the Royals?

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written by mikewang, February 04, 2009 19:25:48
I got this feeling that Tuanku will not agree to a dissolution of the legislative assembly.
I hope I am proven wrong.
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written by coolandy, February 04, 2009 19:28:00
BN under the incoming PM is desperate. With lots of RM at his disposal, he can get away with what he wants except the RAKYAT's wishes.

BN has always been a alliance of convenience and so is PR's due to the unexpected windfall during 308.

Now is the best time to go back to the rakyat to seek a new mandate and clean house. I am sure that PR will have a cleaner house after this episode, which will not be the first and neither will it be the last.

I am positive that The Sultan of Perak will consent to dissolve the state assembly and call for snap elections.
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written by Motherchell, February 04, 2009 19:28:42
The 4 scumbags may have made a lot of money , but they wont live to enjoy it as it belongs to the Poor Rakyat . It was not Najibs money .
Now i come to the Auditor Gen, Bank Negara etc . What do they realkly do with the Rakyats money ??--- you mean they allow Najib to off load the coffers at his whims and fancies ? This is one big problem the True Malays must wake up to before God him self destroys this land .
As IBABONMA says we are not asking one inch of land nor a cent . Just dont allow yourself to be sodomized by a wormed scum as Najib. Pak lah is finito , he has been raped in the daylight by Najib . He is a No brainer !

Who behold their religion and race !! God , King , or Najib????? Im ashamed to be called a Malaysian??
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written by eloofk, February 04, 2009 19:29:46
What i fear most now is the Mafia Chief may even resolt to threaten and harm His Royal Highness and the Royal family to do his bid.
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written by OVERLORD, February 04, 2009 19:31:16
Who would have thought that the balance of power now rest with the Sultan of Perak..The final outcome will have a reverberating effect not only to the extend of the state of Perak, but Malaysia as well....Tuanku,you represent our hopes and dreams and most importantly, you represent us, the Rakyat......Through the years, Mahataik has reduced you and your brother's decision making ability....but alas now, through this unfortunate event, you shall have the last laugh....make the right choice...listen to your rakyat....remain bipartisan....
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written by malsia1206, February 04, 2009 19:32:08
The Election Commission is privy to the whole situation. The Bota State aeemblyman is very much privy to the sell-out. The Deputy State Speaker from DAP is probably in a limbo nature cycle. And the 2 PKR reps had probably bargained for their corruption charges. Najib had played out his poker card as his very last resort. And what about His Highness, the Sultan of Perak? Surely he would not like to be perceived or discerned (rightfully or wronfully) by the peoples in Perak to be inclined one way or another in this roller-coaster. The simple ultimate decision is obvious. Let the electorate decide. It's their common interests at stake. Any other decision would put Malaysia back to the Stone Age. The world is watching.
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written by chin, February 04, 2009 19:32:22
The people wants a PR government, BN is only delaying the inevitable.

And if the king wishes to honor the wishes of the people then he should dissolve the state assembly. It is the obvious choice of the the majority in the state.

The politicians now are deciding for the people when they don't even represent the people anymore. The only thing this move represent is money.

PR can never win a hopping game based on money and I rather they don't win that way.
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 19:36:43
Those who fool the voters and taken them for a ride will be met by the most severe form of illness.They will never enjoy the dirty money that they steal from the rakyat.We will put this crooks on notice.They will fall like a stone in the next GE.
As I have said earlier,Najib's tactics are more cunning than Racist mahathir.Today ,what you have seen is only the beginning.
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written by eskay, February 04, 2009 19:37:58
The Highest Almighty please please please bless our Sultan Of Perak with wisdom and great vision, pray to the Highest Almighty that our Ruler whom we respect so much & place so much hopes upon him will listen to the rakyat's voices by dissolving the Assembly. Yes, plese please save Malaysia by saving Perak. Let the rakyat decide, not the politicians who manage our Nation as if this is their family business, with no consideration to the future of their country fellows. Please save Malaysia !!! smilies/sad.gif
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written by myvoice, February 04, 2009 19:44:42
As the DYMM said, monarcy need to be neutral, therefore please let the rakyat of Perak decide,don't let the 4 frogs to decide the whole of Perak state, stay neutral...and allowed the MB to call for a fresh election! We shall respect you as our top educated Sutan of Perak.
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written by lynn, February 04, 2009 19:45:55
Perakians love its current MB Datuk Nizar. For the first time in the history of Perak, we have a good man in charge unlike previous ones who were perceived to be corrupt. I cannot believe it if the Sultan refused to allow dissolution of state assembly. We want a govt. formed out of honest votes casted, no cheating, no phantom voters, no bribery or threats; may the best man wins.

It's the people's choice who they want to form the state government. PR is our choice.
If najis is allowed to form the state govt in this manner, you & I know this country is dead
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In this country, men in govt. are guilty of corruption, unethical tactics, threats to life or safety, lies, lies, lies, outright blatant bribery rule & not to mention, continuous abuse of power, a tainted Judiciary.... the most corrupted Police... this country has stooped to the most disgusting levels, thanks to umno.

The DYMM is now put in a difficult situation - corruption & bribery is unacceptable, no matter how low-class and 3rd world we are.
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written by Wisdom above, February 04, 2009 19:45:59
YB Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin is still the Perak Menteri Besar till the Sultan proclaimed otherwise.

* resign --- Never! MB did not resigned yet. He served the State well.

* seek a parliamentary dissolution and request a general election ---
--- MB exercised his State Constitutional Rights and has seek HR Highness consent for Dissolution of the Perak State Assembly for fresh mandate from the Rakyat via a State Election.

PR 28 ADUNs versus BN Aduns 27 1 ( less 2 vacant Aduns 1 ex-DAP undated vacant seat seat)

The above article specify clearly a "legally sound solution" to resolve the Perak state of affairs in a constitutional way. It is a positive approach for HR Highness to take cognizance of .

Let's Fast and Pray for Wisdom, Revelation, Peace and Tranquility to prevail.
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written by myvoice, February 04, 2009 19:46:34
Who is greater? The DYMM or The going to be PM of Malaysia, we shall know once whether there is fresh election or not! Malaysia Boleh!!!!!!
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written by magickriver, February 04, 2009 19:47:29
It has been predicted that Umno's attempt to push Najib into power in March 2009 will end in complete shambles. Fasten your seat belts, folks. The shambles have begun in earnest!

Desperation has forced Najib's hand into the open for all to see how filthy they are.
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written by mountainking, February 04, 2009 19:47:35
if the sultan is unwilling to act on this crisis, let's pray that these 4 assemblymen to be taken away by God. then we can have by-election ......
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 19:50:49
Let us see if this Sultan is of the people,by the people and for the people.
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written by archie, February 04, 2009 19:51:22
The Heaven has withdrawn 'Year of the Ox' from Perak and replace it with 'Year of the Frog'.

Let's have a fresh election in Perak so that the people can decide which party should administer the state.
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 19:52:13
I hope the palace is reading MT.If they are then our chances are good ,that the assembly will be dissolved.
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written by Amzek, February 04, 2009 19:53:20
Sultan Azlan is a man of high knowledge of the law. His son was witness to the signing of the letter.

The letter stipulates that if the ADUN left PKR then they forgo their state seat. The 2 PKR and the DAP ADUNs now publicly declare they are no longer with PKR and DAP, so it is legally binded that the 3 state seats are now vacant.

The very least that Sultan Azlan should do now is to ask for the state to get SPR to hold PRK for those 3 seats. Or, do a statewide re-election.
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written by raven1958, February 04, 2009 19:56:55
And what did the Perak electorate think...that Najib wont cheat, kill, maim, murder, kidnap, blackmail, buy or do any combination of these things to get what he wants....you dont know this chap or worse still his scheming wife despite everything out there. Razak has taught him well.....This is a dangerous man and only a massive uprising is going to save the people of Perak for the Sultan is not going to do shit to lift a finger to help the rakyat despite his lofty ideals or qualifications. Read again...


THE DAY NAJIB KILLED ZAKARIA DEROS

1.On March 8th 2008, Malaysia’s opposition parties had won unexpected victories in the states of Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor and PAS maintained Kelantan
2.The BN was in serious trouble and could not believe that the economic powerhouses of Penang and especially Selangor had fallen.
3.Zakaria Deros, the assemblyman who was largely faulted for Selangor’s fall together with Khir Toyo was informed of an emergency UMNO meeting on the night of March 10th 2008 at Najib’s house.
4.However on arrival, Zakaria was surprised to see that there was no one there except for him, Najib and his bodyguards. “Where are the rest?” Zakaria asked. “This is a confidential meeting between the both of us only” Najib replied
5.Najib, then Defence Minister, came straight to the point. Remember 13th May 1969, the incident that my father was involved in? I want you to start a similar incident in Klang. I will call in the army and impose emergency rule afterwards. If you agree, you will be rewarded amply; otherwise you will pay heavily for your corrupt deeds and for the fall of Selangor.
6.Zakaria in his loud and gruff voice not only made it clear that he will not be a party to a riot in Klang but also barked at Najib that he knows well that Rosmah pulled the trigger to kill Altantunya and Najib Oked the C4 of the body.
7.Zakaria further screamed at Najib that he will expose this to the public.
8.The enraged Najib instructed his bodyguards who set upon Zakaria and beat him up till he became unconscious eventually suffocating him by strangling and killing him.
9.The well oiled team covered up the entire incident as Zakaria having a heart attack at just after midnight March 11th 2008.
10.His body was quickly brought back to his mansion in Klang, and sent off for burial in Malacca by late morning March 11th 2008.
11.Corrupted to the core though Zakaria was, he saved the people of Klang from falling for Najib’s evil calling although his sons did try to start an incident unsuccessfully in Telok Gong. Zakaria however paid a heavy price. His own death. If his body was excavated, apart from the strangulation, the injuries include multiple rib fractures, punctured lung and a possible a liver tear.
12.The depth of cruelty and evil that both Najib and Rosmah bear is unknown to many Malaysians. The country is really entering a very dangerous period of its history. UMNO’s culture since Razak, has been that the end justifies the means. Malaysians will now have to decide how bloody this end is going to be.

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written by merlin2001, February 04, 2009 19:59:09
In the first place, has Najib the locus standee to meet with HRH The Sultan of Perak.
Should it not be AAB who is the BN's head?
For creating chaos and letting the voters down can HRH declare that the 4 Running Dogs Persona Non Grata in the state of Perak?
Then and only then make the wisdom of his decision.
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written by JUST, February 04, 2009 19:59:21
"You assist an evil system by obeying its orders and decrees.
An evil system never deserves such allegiance.
Allegiance to it means collaboration with the evil.
A man of principles will resist an evil system with his whole soul.
Non-collaboration with evil is a sacred duty!

It may be long before the law of love will be recognized in
this beautiful country. The machinery of evil administration
stands in-between and hides the loving hearts of the Nation!"

< Mahatma Gandhi >
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written by nana tanjung, February 04, 2009 20:00:48
I never trust this sultan and his son. he was indeed very reluctant to allow PR to form the state govt post 308. And his son was really quick to admonished the MB in the Jamry Suri case. You think he would have been brave enough to do so had Jamry was sacked by UMNO?
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written by lembu susu, February 04, 2009 20:01:00
My heart breaks to hear the news of the collapsed. It is truly a sad day indeed. I think DSAI should be more patient after Mar 8 election. He started the 'crossover talk' first, and now it backfired against him. He is tasting his own medicine.
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written by myvoice, February 04, 2009 20:02:47
DYMM, my whole family have very high regards on you since our primary school time, please don't let us down this time.....what the rakyat wants is to HAVE A FRESH ELECTION, please, please, please help your rakyat!
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written by panca, February 04, 2009 20:05:17
Nothing is fair to the Perakians EXCEPT Your Highness's consent to a dissolution of state assembly and go for new State election.

Your Royal Highness wisdom is very much sought to end this uncertainty for fresh mandate that is fair to All through new State election.
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written by taxi90, February 04, 2009 20:13:38
This is the ultimate proof that all that is needed in Malaysia is $$$ and lots of it. Najib can buy anything he wants regardless of how people vote. No ADUN is incorruptible. Sigh... What a sad reality for Malaysia.
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written by Margeemar, February 04, 2009 20:17:41
The Scribe has credible information that former Perak Menteri Besar (Chief Minister) Tajol Rosli Ghazali was made a scape goat by the devious Najib to take the rap for the 'staged' crossover of Bota Assemblyman Nasaruddin Hashim. Tajol subsequently resigned as Perak BN and Umno Chief and was replaced by Najib. Najib knew that his publicity was plummeting and the very little credibility he had was vaporizing by the minute after humiliating defeats in Permatang pauh and Kuala Terengganu. The only way out was to 'buy' a victory of sorts and at the same time be seen as a savior of BN/Umno, credentials he so badly needs to be sure of becoming PM of Malaysia...More http://margeemar.blogspot.com
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written by ahmadneil, February 04, 2009 20:19:52
written by ibabonma, February 04, 2009 19:09:19

Dear Pete,
Thanks for your plead!
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written by ibabonma, February 04, 2009 20:20:19
Even if BN takes over, it is still an unstable government because of the slim majority. What if there is another round of defection from UMNO? So, dissolve the Assembly, DYMM Tuanku.
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written by cahaya, February 04, 2009 20:21:19
Malaysians have had enough of corruption, abuse of power, and deception by the race-based BN led by Umno. Now is not the time to be playing games like ‘hide and seek’, resigning from one party and joining another or going independent, etc. We are facing a very serious economic crisis. Malaysia is heading into deeper deficit, high unemployment and other problems.

Malaysians (in all states) want good leaders who are capable, honest and hardworking. Leaders who will work together as a team to serve all Malaysians, regardless of race and background.

May Allah guide the Sultan towards a wise decision. May those who have committed crimes be brought to court and be found guilty, then punished for their crimes. May all God fearing citizens pray for peace and justice.
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