More floods due

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More floods due

15:58 3/12/2008, noreply@blogger.com (MarinaM), floods, Marina Mahathir

Folks, the weather isn't holding up too well. We've already heard about the floods in Kelantan and Terengganu (including sadly, some deaths) but floods are also threatening to hit Johor again. That's because the weather prediction for this coming weekend is very heavy rain.

So everybody needs to be prepared. The Red Crescent is heavily involved in relief work and is appealing to everyone for help. Please see my previous post for what is needed.

YAM Raja Zarith Sofiah, Chairman of the Community Services Committee, Malaysian Red Crescent Society, is appealing for donations to buy the 'Clinton Cookers' which are mobile kitchens they need to prepare food for flood victims.

Since my last post to appeal for donations, they have received absolutely nothing. Zilch. I know times are hard, folks, but if you lose everything in the floods, as many of our fellow citizens will, then times will not just be hard, they'll be disastrous. So do try and give what you can. All donations are tax-exempted.

Please send donations to:

name : MRCS JOHOR BAHRU CHAPTER PROJECT FUND
bank : Alliance Bank
account number : 011300010220091

Donations of clothes and other stuff in kind should be sent to MRCS headquarters in KL.

Thanks, folks.

Munafiq…….munafiq…….munafiq

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Never mind the ISA is un-Islamic. Never mind the ISA violates Islamic teachings. Never mind the Quran says no one can be punished without evidence of a crime having being committed. Umno needs such laws to enable it to hold on to power.

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Raja Petra Kamarudin

ISA has protected country from terrorism, says Najib

The Internal Security Act (ISA) has been instrumental in combating terrorism in Malaysia, Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said. He said the law has kept the nation secure from the threat of terrorism.

"There is a very strong raison d'etre for the Internal Security Act. Just look at Mumbai and you realise that we cannot take security lightly. The main reason why there have been no serious acts of terrorism in this country is because we have in place the ISA," he said on the Riz Khan Show on Al-Jazeera last night.

Najib, who is also finance minister, acknowledged however that the government needed to look into some elements of the act that troubled the people. "At the same time, what is important now is to realise that people are concerned about civil liberties... what is important is how you apply the ISA. I realise there are some controversies relating to how the act has been used lately, therefore, we intend to address them in future."

The prime minister-in-waiting gave assurance that the nation's security forces were adequately trained and equipped to face any threat to national security. "They (security forces) are competent and well trained. So far, we have not encountered any serious form of terrorist attacks on Malaysia."

Najib stressed that news reports claiming Malaysian links to the gunmen who terrorised Mumbai were "baseless and unsubstantiated". He also said the threat of extremist Islamic leanings in Malaysia was not serious, although he cautioned against being complacent.

"Generally speaking, the people are very moderate in the way they see Islam being applied in this country. But we have to be vigilant about it. There are few individuals who try to interpret Islam in an extreme and myopic way, which can mislead some young people."

Najib reiterated that the government was committed towards reform and change, in line with the wishes of the people that were reflected in the results of the March 8 general election.

"I realise that there is a new Malaysia today, a Malaysia that has evolved, a Malaysian society that is more matured and sophisticated, demands openness and its concerns relating to human rights and civil liberties. I think as the government, we have to respond to this new Malaysia." Najib said reforms to the judiciary and Anti-Corruption Agency were clear messages to the people that the government was "listening to the electorate".

He said while the government attends to the needs of the Malays and Bumiputeras who form the majority of its support base, it will also champion the rights of the non-Malays. The recent allocation of RM50 million each to Chinese, Tamil, missionary and religious schools, apart from granting government scholarships to students who score nine As and above in the Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia examinations regardless of race, are examples of the government's new approach.

Najib said the view that Malaysian politics was being dominated by a proxy race was not a significant issue as the democratic process was alive and well in Umno. He also welcomed second and third generation Malays who were coming to the fore as they wanted to participate in the democratic process of the party.

"This shows that Umno is a very open and democratic party," he said when asked to comment on the heated contest between Khairy Jamaluddin, the son-in-law of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, and Datuk Mukhriz Mahathir, the son of former premier Tun Dr Mahathir Mohammad, for the party's Youth chief post.

On the nation's economy, Najib said it had grown stronger and more resilient and was in a strong position to weather the current global crisis. "We are in a strategic location as a gateway to China. We also have strong links with India and the Middle East. We are in a unique position to leverage on our links with various centres in this part of the world."

To a question on his reservations regarding the media, Najib said he was more concerned with them "telling the truth".

"Whether it be the mainstream media or the new media, it is important for them to tell the truth. If they tell lies, or half-truths or baseless allegations, they should be responsible for what they say or print." – New Straits Times
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"………it is important for them to tell the truth. If they tell lies, or half-truths or baseless allegations, they should be responsible for what they say or print," said Najib. Agreed! So let's get down to the truth -- no, not MY version of the truth, but the REAL truth, not the distorted 'truth' of Umno and Barisan Nasional.

In 1960, Najib's father, Tun Abdul Razak -- many whom refer to as 'Bapak Tiga-Belas Mei', but whom I would not go so far as to label as such seeing that the 'dark period' of Malaysia was not a one-man effort but a collective thing -- mooted the Internal Security Act (ISA). Allow me, therefore, to take you down memory lane so that we can better understand how the ISA came about.

There is no online version of the Malaysian Parliament Hansard records from 1960 and I am too lazy to drive down to Parliament House to conduct a manual search -- so I will have to rely on my memory to 'extract' what happened that day in 1960 when I was only ten years old. Forgive me, therefore, if I am not able to quote verbatim what was argued and debated in Parliament. I will try to relate, as close as possible, what was said, although it will have to be 'lebih kurang' and not a verbatim version of events.

Before that, for the less literate of our readers, allow me to explain what is a Hansard record. Hansard is the traditional name for the printed transcripts of parliamentary debates in the Westminster system of government. In addition to the Parliament of the United Kingdom and the UK's devolved institutions, a Hansard is maintained for the Parliament of Canada and the Canadian provincial legislatures, the Parliament of Australia and the Australian state parliaments, the national Parliament of South Africa and South Africa's provincial legislatures, the Parliament of New Zealand, the Legislative Council of Hong Kong, the Parliament of Malaysia, the Parliament of Singapore, the Legislative Council of Brunei, the Parliament of Sri Lanka, the Parliament of Trinidad and Tobago, the National Assembly of Kenya, the National Assembly of Tanzania, and the Parliament of Jamaica.



Tun Abdul Razak Hussein

Okay, now back to the 1960 Parliament debate. Tun Abdul Razak Hussein was then Malaysia's Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defence. He became the second Prime Minister of Malaysia from 1970 to 1976 after successfully ousting Tunku Abdul Rahman soon after the 13 May 1969 race riots -- which most historians agree was 'engineered' by the 'Young Turks' in Umno led by Tun Razak in their bid to oust the Tunku (and which worked if that was the reason for May 13).

Tun Razak was the Prime Minister responsible in setting up Barisan Nasional, which is the ruling coalition of political parties that have held power in Malaysia till today. Tun Razak, Najib's father in case you have forgotten, is also the 'architect' behind the New Economic Policy (NEP) -- so this makes him an 'engineer' and 'architect' both in one.

But May 13 and the NEP are not the only things we can 'credit' Tun Razak with. In 1960, Tun Razak tabled a proposal in Parliament to enact the ISA, a draconian law that allows for detention without trial. The Umno argument that the ISA is an 'old British law' is therefore not true. Malaya was granted independence or Merdeka from Britain in August 1957. This means the ISA was made into law three years AFTER Merdeka. So how can it be an 'old British law'? That is a lie which Umno has been perpetuating for a long time and in the spirit of 'telling the truth', as Najib said, let us therefore tell the truth.

D.R. Seenivasagam, a lawyer and founder of the People's Progressive Party (PPP), who was the then opposition leader in Parliament, stood up to oppose the proposed ISA. This law was too draconian and too 'loose' to be allowed.

Tun Razak then explained that the ISA will only be used against the Communist Terrorists (CTs) in the government's effort to combat terrorism perpetuated by the Communist Party of Malaya (CPM). It will be for that purpose and for only that and for no other purpose.

There are about 500 CTs operating along the Malayan-Thai border and another 200 plus in the Pahang jungles, explained Tun Razak. The ISA will be used only against these 800 or so CTs in an effort to end terrorism in Malaya. With that explanation and assurance, even the opposition supported the ISA and Seenivasagam, plus all the other opposition Members of Parliament, voted in favour of introducing the ISA into law.

We must remember that Malaya, then, was under a state of emergency, which was declared by the British in 1948. However, twelve years later, in 1960, the Emergency was lifted. Therefore, when the ISA was proposed in 1960, Malaya was no longer under a state of emergency. So why the need for an 'emergency' law like the ISA? This is something that escapes me. If there was no longer a state of emergency why do we need an emergency law? Furthermore, the British Emergency Ordinance (EO) was never repealed (and which is still used till today). So the ISA was an additional law.

In 1989, almost twenty years ago, the Communist Party of Malaya signed a Peace Treaty with the Malaysian government in Haadyai, Thailand. Officially, the 'war' had ended and Malaysia was no longer under a state of emergency (which had been lifted in 1960 anyway). But the ISA remained and continued to be used.

Since the signing of the Peace Treaty in Haadyai in 1989, the ISA is no longer used against the CTs. It is now used against the 'new Communists', the Islamists -- plus of course those opposed to Umno. Back in the 1990s the West had declared -- after the break-up of the USSR in December 1991 and when Communist Russia no longer posed a threat -- that the 'new Communism' is Islam and Malaysia, a so-called Islamic country with Islam as the official religion, agreed with the West that Islam is the 'new Communism'. So the ISA, which used to be used against the CTs of the MCP in the old days, is now used against the 'new Communists', the Islamists.

So much for Islam Hadhari.

The Malaysian government, therefore, has cheated the rakyat. The ISA is a law that is a SPECIFIC law meant to combat terrorism perpetuated by the Communist Party of Malaya. It is not meant for anything else. And the target of the ISA was the 800 or so CTs operating along the Malaysian-Thai border and in the jungles of Pahang. But that threat no longer exists. The 'war' ended in 1989 with the signing of the Peace Treaty in Thailand. There is no longer a state of emergency in Malaya, which the British lifted in 1960 anyway. But the ISA remains and is used against those who oppose Umno and against the so-called 'new Communists', the Islamists.

Umno says that Malaysia's government is a 'Malay' government. Umno claims to be the largest Muslim party in the world. Umno says that Islam is the official religion of Malaysia. But Umno, the so-called largest Muslim party in the world in a country that legislates Islam as the official religion of this country, upholds laws that violate Islamic teachings. That is the reality of the situation. And Islam has a word for this. This word can be found in the Quran. And that word is munafiq, which means hypocrite.

In Surah Nur of the Quran, it specifies the punishment for the crime of adultery. No one can be accused of adultery unless there are four witnesses to the crime. And if the accuser is not able to prove his allegation, then he is to be punished instead. Yes, the accuser and not the accused must receive punishment in the absence of evidence. That is what the Quran says.

But those Muslims from the largest Muslim party in the world -- who foam at the mouth when they perceive in their very narrow minds anyone 'insulting' Islam and who scream that Islam is the official religion of this country -- violate the Quran's edicts. We need the ISA, say these people, for the sake of preservation of national security. Never mind the Quran says no one can be punished unless there is evidence of a crime. Never mind the Quran says the accuser instead of the accused must be punished if the allegation is not supported by evidence. The Quran can say one thing. Umno will do the opposite.

This, Islam calls, munafiq.

Last night, 30 or so Malays aligned to Umno demonstrated outside the Bar Council in Kuala Lumpur. These 30 or so were demonstrating their support of the ISA. It was a pro-ISA demonstration. And they were protesting the anti-ISA forum being held inside the Bar Council.

The forum started at 8.00pm. The pro-ISA demonstrators came after the Ishak prayers. This is probably because they first went for their Ishak prayers. And this also probably means they do not miss their mandatory five times a day prayers. And, when they pray, they recite verses from the Quran. And they also probably recite verses from Surah Nur of the Quran. But, last night, after their Ishak prayers, they assembled in front of the Bar Council in support of the ISA and in violation of the verses of the Quran.

This, Islam calls, munafiq.

And Najib, too, wants to retain the ISA, a law that his father mooted back in 1960. Never mind the ISA is un-Islamic. Never mind the ISA violates Islamic teachings. Never mind the Quran says no one can be punished without evidence of a crime having being committed. Umno needs such laws to enable it to hold on to power. So it may not be the Islamic thing to do. So what? Power is more important than Islam. The ISA is more important than the Quran. This is what matters.

This, Islam calls, munafiq.

All together now, repeat after me……..munafiq…...munafiq….….munafiq.
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written by Tompios, December 02, 2008 12:31:25
Munafiq bin Taufiq. You are right Pete. 100% agree. Anyway, small or big scales; I am munafiq too. Not your concern. Our concern is, some UMNO's leaders who are fighting for Malays and Islam but acting outside of very base teaching of Quran. THIS is very disgusting.
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written by cheekhiaw, December 02, 2008 12:31:57
40 years of a long line of thieves, liars and murderers.
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written by clting08, December 02, 2008 12:36:10
Dear Pete,
100% agreed that ISA is to secure nation from the threat of terrorism.
Why use on civilants? What is the proof Hindraf 5 link with Tamil Tigers??
What is the proof that Teresa Kok, Reporter Tan and yourself link to terrorism?? I would advise PPP and MCA (if they got the guts) to pull out from barisan on their yesterday statement immediately.
Down with ISA. Long live the Rakyat...
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written by SamSan, December 02, 2008 12:38:13
I think the true teaching of Islam is Islam Hadhari. I am praying that in due time the whole Islamic World would open its eyes and accept it. Islam Hadhari will unite the various sects in the Islamic World. If Prophet Muhammad is alive, he too would have totally endorsed it.
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written by Frankfurtguy, December 02, 2008 12:44:31
Modern Malaysia do not need ISA
ISA is for weak people, for weak government, for government with low confidence
ISA is evil from the start
ISA is against all religious and judiciary teaching
Whoever use ISA is evil too
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written by AuntyG, December 02, 2008 12:45:57
coret, coret, coret, I repeat after you, munafiq, munafiq, munafiq.
And we must not allow the perpetuation of a draconian legacy set by the father to the son (and to the unholy ghost ????)
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written by Liberace, December 02, 2008 12:47:09
You said it Bro! I wanna say it together with you but I wonder if I should first make sure that this "munafiq" thing isn't another one of those copyrighted words that only Muslims can utter, like "Allah" and what was that other word that was spoken by Lim Guan Eng. I hate to be a coward but these days, with so much extremism-cum-idiocy around, some cowardice will come in handy. There are land mines everywhere.
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written by ahmadneil, December 02, 2008 12:54:58
ISA is the coward's tool and with this it gives them extra leverage to silence those who are not toeing their line.They use ISA on innocent malaysians but they use C4 on mongolian.Neither should be use.
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written by usurper, December 02, 2008 12:56:28
MM must have been somewhere is this Razak story.His DNA seems everywhere. Both these PM's have their offsprings now trying to be better munafiqs. Sigh..how to get rid of these munafiqs.
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written by smeagrooo, December 02, 2008 13:07:21
Whilst ISA has so far managed to thwart some Mumbai-like tragedies it still however unable to prevent one Mongolian from being blown up.

Now who is the terrorist and threat?
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written by KTRaj, December 02, 2008 13:18:31
If the PR taking over the government then the BN will urge to abolish the ISA.. It's all the POWER Crazy matter...
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written by carribeanking7, December 02, 2008 13:18:52
Dear Pete,

I understand that you too have an appointment with Riz Khan on Al -Jazeeera soon , no doubt you will expose these hypocrites there.

They hardly arrested anyone linked to terrorist activities, Riz Khan should read this :

Aliran Quoted:
History of the ISA has shown that the draconian law is often used when the main ruling party, the United Malays National Organization (UMNO), is challenged of its grip on power or faced internal crisis. Since 1960 when the ISA was enacted, more than 10,000 people had been detained with most of them being dissidents from opposition parties, social movements and civil society organizations.

http://www.aliran.com/index.php?id=706:isa-is-not-the-answer-to-racial-harmony&option=com_content&catid=63:gmi&Itemid=11

Najib is lying through his teeth, nobody belives him but his party members.

As revealed in the Quran, chapter 63 verse 4 Al-Munafiqoon

YUSUFALI: When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!


These wise words are a very apt indicator of a munafiqoon,they use big hollow empty words and because of their own insincerity they are always afraid of their own shadow, it eerily describes UMNO.

Vijay Kumar Murugavell


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Fatwahs galore by 'No Holds Barred'

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In time, these great Islamic empires became so corrupt that they eventually disappeared from the face of this earth. What we see in the Middle East today is the residual of the once great Islamic empire from the Golden Age of Islam.

NO HOLDS BARRED
Fatwah,
Raja Petra Kamarudin

Aiyah, so many people phoned me to ask why I have not written about the current fatwah controversy. People seem to have the impression that it is my duty to talk about everything under the sun. I think enough people, right up to the Sultans and Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, have touched on the matter. Do you really need me to also offer my two cents worth?

I suppose I can’t run away from my ‘duty’ of also whacking the issue seeing that I have been ‘officially’ labelled as an insulter of Islam. People just expect me to put my foot in my mouth on any issue involving Islam. Anyway, he goes.

I have no problems with the Fatwah Council or religious bodies coming out with fatwahs. It is not like anyone would follow them anyway. It is just an exercise in hot air as far as I am concerned. I mean, take the many ‘fatwahs’ already passed by God and cemented in the Quran for eternity. Do Muslims really take heed over what has been forbidden by God?

I remember a talk that Sheikh Imran Hosein once gave in Kuala Lumpur about ten years ago on the subject matter of riba’ or usury. We published his lecture into a booklet and distributed it free to all and sundry.

Sheikh Imran said that, according to the Prophet Muhammad, there are 80 levels of usury, bribery being just one of them. And the sin of the lowest level of all, said Sheikh Imran, tantamount to the sin of sexual intercourse with your own parent.

Can you imagine yourself having sex with your father or mother? Well, the sin of the lowest level usury is the same as the sin of sex with your own father and mother. And bribery is not the lowest level yet. So the sin of bribery certainly ranks higher than the sin of sex with your own mother or father.

Is there a fatwah on bribery? Do you even need a fatwah from the Fatwah Council or any religious body when God has already issued His ‘fatwah’? A man-made fatwah would be unnecessary and redundant. A fatwah can never make bribery more haram than it already is. And that is probably why no one sees the need for coming out with another fatwah.

But this does not stop Muslims from taking bribes. Considering that more than 90% of Malaysia’s civil servants are Muslims, and bribery is most rampant amongst the civil service, this would mean the Muslims are the most corrupt lot, at least as far as Malaysia is concerned.

Look at Umno. Even Tun Dr Mahathir laments about corruption in Umno. They call it ‘money politics’, of course, but this is just corruption by another name. And are not all Umno members Muslims (expect for maybe some from Sabah)? Umno is actually very concerned about the matter and can’t quite figure out what to do. Even the most corrupted Umno leaders are concerned about it. When the crooks worry about the spiralling crime rate then rest assured the problem is very serious indeed.

Sure, ban yoga for all I care. After all I do not do yoga and it does not really affect me personally. Even ban lipstick and high heels as well if that makes us more Islamic. Have separate checkout counters for men and women and ‘his’ and ‘her’ swimming pools. These, to me, are small potatoes. But while we are at it can we also issue fatwahs and ban the more serious practices that ail the Muslim community? Can we ban corruption?

I don’t see how yoga, lipstick and high heels can weaken the ummah (community). I don’t think Muslims will convert to Hinduism or Christianity because of yoga, lipstick and high heels. But corruption can destroy the ummah. And most Islamic communities have collapsed because of corruption.

Muslims are fond of talking about the ‘Golden Age of Islam’. Yes, at one time, Islam was a great empire. But it no longer is. And why is that? In time, these great Islamic empires became so corrupt that they eventually disappeared from the face of this earth. What we see in the Middle East today is the residual of the once great Islamic empire from the Golden Age of Islam.

And that is why the 'fatwah' from God, as related by the Prophet, says that bribery is one of the 80 levels of riba’ and the sin of the lowest level of riba’ tantamount to the sin of sex with your own parent. And this is more disastrous than yoga, lipstick or high heels.

Muslims have to get their priorities straight. Sure, come out with fatwahs if need be. But let these fatwahs be about what really ails us and not about some minor issue that was not really a danger to the ummah in the first place.

Armain Carlier, my one-time business contact from Schlumberger, related a story about how he went to Iran many years after the Iranian Revolution. He was there to visit their partner and to see how their joint-venture factory was getting along. It had been years since anyone from Schlumberger had visited Iran and they did not know even if the business was still in operation.

He was surprised when their Iranian partner handed him a cheque for the profits they had made over all those years. He thought the factory no longer existed, let alone was still making a profit. And he never expected Schlumberger’s Iranian partner to be so honest as to hand Schlumberger’s share of the profits over to him.

Carlier was so impressed and said that Islam must be a great religion if its people can be so honest. Yes, that is the example of an un-corrupt Muslim, which impressed even a non-Muslim like Carlier. And this should be the target of the Fatwah Council and religious bodies, to indoctrinate Muslims into becoming honest and un-corrupt.

So carry on fatwahing. I have no problems with that. It is just that maybe we should put yoga, lipstick and high heels way at the bottom of the list of items to be banned. Corruption should be the first target. That hurts us more than yoga, lipstick and high heels. That was what saw the end of the Islamic empire. That was what caused the extinction of the Golden Age of Islam.

And this fatwah fiasco has raised another problem. It has set the Rulers and religious authorities on a collision course. Will we now see a turf war between the Rulers and the religious authorities? The outcome of all this is going to see one party embarrassed, either the Rulers or the religious authorities. And would this not be embarrassing for the Malays as well? And, in the meantime, corruption prevails. It is getting from bad to worse. And no one wants to come out with a fatwah on this.
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written by manic_annie, November 26, 2008 14:58:35
Very true.
Save the ummah, down with corruption!
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written by confuseus, November 26, 2008 15:05:12
BULLS EYE, Pet.
These are all trivial, we must address the vital and the King shall be the "PAYUNG" for all Rakyat and not vv.

Pet, please publish my articles on OMBUDSMAN, soon !

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written by teo siew chin, November 26, 2008 15:07:53
I was given to understand that a fatwah is merely a guide. How can one be 'guided' on corruption? (pls dont jam your foot in my mouth YM RPK smilies/grin.gif)
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written by Ken Liew, November 26, 2008 15:09:33
So Islam is losing face thanks to the UMNO elites.
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written by semut, November 26, 2008 15:18:56
yoga haram..
ISA halal..kill mongolian halal..

huh! smilies/angry.gif
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written by malaysianohope, November 26, 2008 15:20:38
I'm not going to comment about the religion since I'm not one but I surely would like to say that Umno is unislamic since it cordone corruptions and bribery. That is the irony of a party which supposely champion Islam & so put on notice Allah is watching. The end is nigh!
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written by Hairy Potter, November 26, 2008 15:32:00
teo siew chin..

a true fatwa is a decree that must be followed by muslims. but as in all religions, there are good followers and there are not. good followers abide by the fatwa and vice versa. we are just humans with full of weaknesses.

at the end of the day, god is full of forgiveness. we can commit the biggest sin towards god and he will still forgive us if we fully regretted our wrongdoings and wholeheartedly ask for his forgiveness but our sins towards others will only be forgiven by god if we had been forgiven by the people we sinned.

as rpk aptly put it, let them bring out all the fatwas that they want. to follow or not to is entirely different matter and is solely a decision to be made by oneself. if the fatwa becomes a state or country law and if one can be charged in court for not abiding it but one still wants to go against it, so be it! one just have to face the repercussions and again, it is entirely one's own problem.

salam..
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written by cruzeiro, November 26, 2008 15:53:24
This phenomenon of "religious edicts" being passed by "Godmen" isn't as isolated as it may seem. This has been the rule, rather than the exception in the Abrahamic faiths/sects for ages. More so, when the political establishment is intellectually and ideologically bankrupt, as it was during the time when the "Holy Roman Emperors" were attempting to perpetuate their rule through ignorance. They used religion to reinforce the perception that they were indispensible, in that they were the temporal guardians of "souls" in the hereafter.
After all why wouldn't a "right-thinking" public accept them as rulers on earth, when they care for the people's souls, right??!!
It gives them reason to "soldier on" in "defense" of whatever they seem worthy, so as to divert anger & attention from the corrupt & inefficient politicians, to the taxpayers themselves.
Today, these things would (if ever), rarely happen in a civilised nation.
Thanks to the Mahathirist antidote to earlier PAS-inspired "revivalism"/extremism through "Amanat Hadi" - In Malaysia however, they are enforced through using instruments of state, at the taxpayers' expense - just as in the Papal politics or "Islamist Republics/Monarchies".
Who knows - Maybe one day, we will have Rela-like uniformed Mat Skodeng "SWAT teams" ....
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God-Talk, Fatwas & Inquisition Theology
http://cruzinthots.blogspot.co...ology.html
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written by non conformist, November 26, 2008 16:07:20
(expect for maybe some from Sabah)

Esquire RPK, I believe you meant 'EXCEPT for maybe some from Sabah.'

My hearty agreement with you.

Jesus said, rebuking the religious HYPOCRITES,

" 5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."

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written by teo siew chin, November 26, 2008 16:22:09
Dear Hairy Potter

I so totally concur with your comments.
It's like the traffic law.
so, how many of us don't ever have a traffic summons?
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written by Hairy Potter, November 26, 2008 16:26:23
note: all fatwas apply to muslims only.

salam
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written by ahmadneil, November 26, 2008 16:44:25
Standing Up For Islam

Muslims are fighting back-not just against the west but also against the militancy in their midst.

UNTIL RECENTLY, MY FATHER- A MUSLIM-NEVER FULLY REALIZED HOW FUNDAMENTALLY the world had changed since 9/11. Though he saw the horrific attacks on TV and expressed sympathy for the victims and shock at the evil men can do, it didn't impact him personally.As a semiretired businessman residing in Kuala Lumpur, my father maintains a routine of dropping by his office, meeting friends and fussing over his grand children.But a number of weeks ago he inadvertently stumbled into what some have mislabeled the clash of civilizations when he visited a old acquaintance, the chinese owner of a high-end watch shop downtown.The proprietor had been grilled by a London immigration on a trip to Europe, and he figured he knew who to blame. "It's all because of you Muslims," he told my dad.
The rebuke hardly rates as real religious harrassment, but it's symptomatic of the cross,so to speak, that Muslims now bear: they are held collectively responsible by many non-Muslims for the sins of a lunatic fringe and are stereotyped as zealots because of their faith. As the world watches,the war in the Persian Gulf, and the potential for retaliatory terrorist attacks keep much of Asia on alert and this report chronicling the diversity of Islam as it's lived, practiced and celebrated in Asia is essential reading.We don't claim the collection of stories that follows is definitive, but we believe it accurately reflects the mood and spirit of Muslims in the region: angry,yes, but also hurt and sad and proud, struggling to maintain an identity in the face of globalization, and bravely struggling, in ways both big and small, to prevent their faith from being hijacked by hate.Above all, it reminds us, these are fellow human beings just like you, or me, or my father.
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written by ahmadneil, November 26, 2008 16:47:12
Is there any fatwah on sodomy?
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written by ylcc, November 26, 2008 17:09:03
From Malaysiakini
PM: Muslims can practice yoga
Nov 26, 08 4:37pm
Muslims can continue practicing yoga as long as there are no elements of worship or mantras involved, said Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi today. Furthermore, the premier underscored the fact that yoga was good for health.
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written by Bloodhound, November 26, 2008 17:12:37
No way, there's no way the Council would dare to issue fatwa on corruptions. Their masters will send them packing...and they have mouths to feed, so the corrupt politicians and civil servants should be quite safe for the time being practising and fine tuning their expertise!

On another matter, when the mind is weak, fatwa is nothing. Check out links below -

http://sjsandteam.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/
http://sjsandteam.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/when-the-son-marries-the-mother/
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written by merlin2001, November 26, 2008 17:14:47
In the event that the PM, DPM, Ministers and the civil service administrators are all corrupt whom among will be judged as the greater sinner?
Are there different level of hell for each?
Remember the rot start from the fishy head.
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written by Rainbowseahorse, November 26, 2008 17:15:33
Bro Pete,

The problem is, all these religious people have too much time on their hands and being cooped up all day, 365 days a year, does strange things to human brains.
Find or put all these religious people to work and soon they will be too tired to "Fatwa" this and that.

For attention getter and to show their cleverness, hey presto, they come up with : "Hmmmm, I-say-man, I have been thinking, shouldn't we have a Fatwa on...."

So, out comes another Fatwa which makes sense only to them, and pleases them to pieces because they thought of it first which even their Arab counterparts failed to do.
It's another Malaysia First...Malaysia Boleh!
:-)
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written by Xrap11, November 26, 2008 17:16:52
Fatwa merely a conclusion derived by a group of islamic trustee regarding to unclear matter. I would think that it is sort of democracy system whereby one ulamak might have different opinion to the others.
Yoga have 80% of meditation in its practise. Solah on the other hand which done preperly and kyusu' would be able to give ummah all the required meditation and body movement that is required to achieve better health.
To relate islam, UMNO and bumiputra as one unit is improper. Take it easy when commenting especially for my non-malay friend. Do some mind relaxing activity if you think only about condemning comments rather than constructive. You guys were partly the reason why Pet had spend time in Kamunting. Be thoughtful of a Malay that stood up for Malaysian as a whole, will ya.

http://pancingengland.blogspot.com
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written by kanokporn, November 26, 2008 17:22:24
question is how was i born? then the next question is as christianity/judaism is only 2000/5000 years ago but hinduism was there before all this. so how about yoga? i dont know lah. must ask the national fatwah coucil
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written by *****, November 26, 2008 17:24:36
Waiting for fatwa on ISA.
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written by willove, November 26, 2008 17:27:14
Oh yes, Malaysia is a wonderful paradise, free from troubles all over the world.
At the time when the world is facing one of the worst financial crisis...
At the time when our future is seriously affected by environmental issues...
At the time when other nations are fighting to be the best in the world...
Our national news headline reads:
"Fatwahs issued on yoga practice."
"Fatwahs issued on Muslim ladies dressing like man."
"Penang having multi-ligual road signs!"

Wow, wow, wow! What a country!
Where are we heading? Scary!!! smilies/angry.gif
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written by binkah1, November 26, 2008 17:38:48
Hahaha..bull eye pete. It could just be a trick by those in power to refocus the rakyat attention away from more serious concern such as corruption etc etc.
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written by Motherchell, November 26, 2008 18:18:09
Dear Pete,
So sorry to keep on bugging you with so many doubts about Fatwas!,

Could i be enlightened about;

1)What is the NFC ? the reason i ask is ---- do they just swipe their employee cards and go home driving the Merc's we give them in the name of Civil Servants perks??

2)Why is it that the Fatwa Council visit the Malaysian Concentration Camps to see if all is well with Islam --- but forget that a Concentration Camp is forbidden in Islam??

3)Why is it that the so called Fatwa Council is so afraid to go to the PDRM safe rooms , secret locations , Torture chambers to see if there was anything against the teachings of what they profess??

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6) Why do they cajole all the leaders who grope GRO's like Beardo and is still scot free.

7) What do they have to say about Nazri's son having a wild time at the bay?? He has every right i know--- but let not his father tell us what purity is all about !

:-) Why were they silent when Saiful broke the tenets of Islam by taking the oath???

9) Why is murder like catching a fish to them?? Would they feel the same if it hits close to their hearts !

Ok My dear Pete ! time you had some coffee , before your research on these imbeciles!
God bless you Pete!

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written by Milo, November 26, 2008 18:21:45
Wow! What if the 'religious authority' from PAS issues a 'reminder' fatwa to muslims to ban corruption to reinforce God's fatwa that was already in the Koran (that was forgotten)? That would be interesting, isn't it? I really want to see how UMNO will counter such a fatwa. mmm....
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written by malgal, November 26, 2008 18:33:16
Yes, we are so harried about the speck in our brother's eye that we failed to see the plank in ours.
The fatwah on yoga and not on say, corruption, has exposed a small mindedness and narrow view. An authority whose power to wield goodness and guidance has instead diminished its ability and sadly trivialised itself.
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written by JohnQ, November 26, 2008 18:36:12
If Yoga, lipsticks and high heels are as sinful as bribery and corruption, EASY, just pray and ask for forgiveness after every practises, just like the NOs are doing after every coffer stealing and cheatings,
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written by magickriver, November 26, 2008 18:36:31
You said it, Pete, and most lucidly & drolly too, bravo. Let this be the last word on the compulsion to fatwa fatuously - which can only lead to some people fearing the mad mullah syndrome (and planning their escape to Kiwiland) and others laughing till they fart.
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written by carribeanking7, November 26, 2008 18:36:58
Dear Pete,

Over the last few days, I saw much of a bashfest here and elsewhere where some non-Muslims took potshots at the fatwa's and Muslims telling them to butt out as it does not concern them, I abstained from posting a single opinion as I am neither Muslim nor a Yoga practitioner,but as a citizen living in a multiracial multireligious country I realize that it is not so easy compartmentalize these issues.

My understanding is that a fatwa is an Islamic religious ruling, a scholarly opinion on a matter of Islamic law. please correct me if I am wrong) people who pronounce these rulings are supposed to be knowledgeable, and base their rulings in knowledge and wisdom. They need to supply the evidence from Islamic sources for their opinions, and as you have pointed out in a previous article they can come to different conclusions regarding the same issue. Harris Ibrahim also pointed out an instance where a fatwa issued was revoked several years later, in his story about Pak Ahmad. He also points out that it is a fineable and jailable offence under section 9 & 12 of the syariah criminal offences act 1997 which includes flouting a fatwa. So it is also about using ones god given conscience as a guide. I also understand that Muslims are expected to follow fatwa's but not obliged to do so. in short it between you and god.

Thus it puzzles me that the fatwa is enforceable under the syariah act. Is our Fatwa council comprised of members who have the stature to give such edicts, or are they merely yet another tool under the ruling governments payroll ? That is a matter for Malaysian Muslims to decide.

As a non-Muslim citizen however my concerns are as follows :-

1) The effect of investment inflows into the country due to investors pessimism over frivolous fatwas, this affects us all regardless of religious affiliation.

2) Overzealous enforcement officers inconveniencing non-Muslims by hanging around health clubs and demanding to see identification, in the past it made us an international laughing stock when they asked an American couple for their marriage license, they have proven in many incidents to be anything but tactful.

3) Using such fatwa's to frame Muslim opposition MP's on trumped up charges, this will be a setback to the constituents(including non Muslims) whom they represent.

4) The ruling government who has the fatwa council under its payroll, twisting their arms to issue such fatwas to scare non-Muslim voters into abandoning PAS, I can't help but notice the escalation since PAS extended the olive branch by formally ratifying its non-Muslim wing, it seems that they are killing 2 birds with one stone by trying to show that they are more Islamic than PAS at the same time trying to erode PAS non-Muslim support.

I for one see this whole episode as politically motivated with far reaching ramifications, that is why I am concerned as a citizen, I am reminded of this quote by Pastor Martin Niemoler :

When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent;I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent;I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I was not a Jew.

When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

Regards
Vijay Kumar Murugavell
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written by Palmdoc, November 26, 2008 18:44:51
This reminds me of a great blog post by Haris Ibrahim:
http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/when-little-napoleons-aspire-to-play-god/
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written by carribeanking7, November 26, 2008 18:52:56
Motherchell quoted:
Why were they silent when Saiful broke the tenets of Islam by taking the oath???

In all fairness the fatwa council did come out and say it was wrong, I saw it on TV, but it was a low key affair, and what puzzled me was it was done exactly a day after the permatang pauh by election was concluded, saiful was never heard of after that.

Regards
Vijay Kumar Murugavell
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written by Sabahfan, November 26, 2008 20:14:14
Yes pete. very correct but then the JAKIM and police will say again. RPK has cause an offence again the security of nation by questionin the FATwaaah. but the orders were drafted by humans of questionable origin.
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written by KotaDamansara73, November 26, 2008 20:16:24
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written by Motherchell, November 26, 2008 20:50:02
written by carribeanking7, November 26, 2008 18:52:56

Thank you Murugavel for the update ! I must have missed that .

Here another doubt arises -- how could a serious fathwa be committed in a mosque by allowing Saiful to do what he did . For sure if a VIP matter was to be indiscretioned ?? --- phone calls would have gone helter skelter to the higher ups !
So do the controllers just have faith for the sake of controlling to the music from the corridors??

Pete i have this question--- how much did the Mosque Mufti know about the faith by allowing this to happen?? So who can we trust for the final words on this ?? Definitely not the little mullahs!

As carribeanking says , ........"When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.............................
So very true Murugavel!
Cheers brother.
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written by bakas, November 26, 2008 20:52:25
I believe that, had proper consultation and observation been made, the issue of banning of yoga and tomboy could have been handled better. I believe the National Fatwa Council has their own reasons for issuing the fatwas, but I must say it was done in a distasteful manner. It is quite incredulous to say that yoga and tomboyism can divert Muslims from finding the true path. Instead, it is gullibility and pettiness that will be the downfall of anyone aspiring to find the true path. Does God really actually bother about this? What about things ‘bigger’ than these two? I must admit, I failed to see the ‘real’ reason behind the recent issuing of fatwas, and I agree with RPK that this is utterly useless as nobody follows them anyway. Look at alcohol and extramarital sex! It is HARAM in Islam, yet one still see it rampant among the community. And aren’t these two sins ‘bigger’ than yoga that teaches you discipline and tomboyism that is part of a search for an identity?
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written by budakindia, November 26, 2008 21:52:30
Pete, I think we can just leave them alone. They can ban whatever they fancy as long as they don't touch others. We don't you to be entangled with all the small things. If they wanted to be an ars*hol* let them. It's just another trap they set to shut us up. smilies/angry.gif
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written by sydput, November 26, 2008 21:54:44
in the early days of the muslim empire, they absorbed knowledge introduced to them by the romans, the greeks, the persianx and and the eqyptians.
Today, malay muslims refused to learn from the two oldest asian civilisations, the indians nd the chinese.
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written by MNor, November 26, 2008 23:27:35
YM RPK, too true on what you have said and this is what I have experienced. A Non-bumi lawyer friend of mind lamented how she was surprised to note that a white songkok (kupiah haji) civil servant was demanding kopi money from her inorder help search her required documents/informations for her client. A man who has done his haj pilgrimage!!! asking for money???? My GOD!!! being a malay muslim, how do you think I feel!!!! suck man realy sick. So DEAR YM RPK you are 100% right man.

Warm regards and may GOD bless you and your family..wassalam
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written by Taiping60, November 27, 2008 00:00:06
Pete,

Very well said. So Malaysians, if those in power does not do anything about it to get rid of corruption then we Malaysian should stand up in the next election and remove all those corrupted politicians regardless of whether they are from the governments or oppositions.
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written by cheekhiaw, November 27, 2008 00:14:12
The Islamic empires were 'great' only as long as the nomadic conquerors and barbarians left the great Syriac, Persian and Egyptian civilisations alone.

After a few hundred years, when those civilisations were completely perverted by the simplistic and stupid notions of life of those barbarians their 'greatness' started the downward slide.

This passage from Omar Khayyam is telling

And do you think that unto such as you;
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew:
God gave the secret—and denied it me?
Well, well, what matters it? Believe that, too.
- Rubaiyat, Omar Khayyam

Similarly, 40 years of perversion by a bunch of thieves, liars and murderers gave rise to the Malaysia today.

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written by shepherdvoyage, November 27, 2008 00:59:46
BN and the Fatwah Council have at least one thing in common: they walk upside down, i.e. their heads down and their legs up, therefore they make small issues big and big issues small.
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written by arazak, November 27, 2008 03:02:36
“And bribery is not the lowest level yet. So the sin of bribery certainly ranks higher than the sin of sex with your own mother or father”.
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In UMNO, “money politics” (read corruption/ bribery) is rampant!

Hey guys. . ., the UMNOs are having orgies “dulu, kini dan selamanya”.
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written by Janaka, November 27, 2008 03:19:26
As referring to the comment from our beloved bro ahmadneil

Is there any fatwah on SOMDOMAZATION? .. it was sensationalized 'the somdomy' during the Permatang Pauh's election by infamous SHITFOOL.

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Raja Petra ordered to report to the Sentul Police Station

Source: http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/14973/84/
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Monday, 17 November 2008 15:34

Malaysia Today

Raja Petra Kamarudin has been ordered to report to the Sentul Police Station at 3.00pm tomorrow, Tuesday, 18 November 2008.

According to ACP Aziz, JAKIM has made another police report against Raja Petra and the police want to record his statement.

It is not known yet what the police report is about and under what charge his statement will be recorded but it seems it is about an article he wrote in Malaysia Today.
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written by hckit, November 17, 2008 15:38:13
why not allocate an office for RPK at Bukit Aman, Sentul and etc police stations?
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written by I_Luv_Manglish, November 17, 2008 15:45:04
For heaven's sake, don't these goons have anything better to do?
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written by Rainbowseahorse, November 17, 2008 15:47:17
With bothe the PM & DPM out of the country to take responsibilty, that Fat Head (and arse) Ex-Yemenis Home Minister and the GP Musa is going to have a field day!
Bro Pete, take all precautions; yah!
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 15:49:54
Hey Jakim,what do you want from RPK? He is only a writer.You don't play play!If you like to see him go to his house and not ask him once in a while to go and see the dingos.
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written by cheekymate, November 17, 2008 15:51:07
How come you idiot PDRM are so efficient when it comes to catching our RPK? What happened to all the police reports made by the opposition against all your corrupt Umnoputras? Nothing has been done as yet! You all are despicable cowards.
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 15:52:25
Now he can't write,Paula can't sing,tomboy can't wear jeans,we can't comment about muslim and Jakim can do anything they like.What country are we living in?
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written by arazak, November 17, 2008 15:53:31
Another "UMNO-fearing" (and not God-fearing) Imam at work to please their master!
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written by Newkidonblog, November 17, 2008 15:54:53
Polis DiUMNO Malaysia versus Polis DiRaja Malaysia!
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 15:56:44
RPK must have written about Aminah and Najis got angry so he report it to Jakim .
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written by densemy, November 17, 2008 15:56:48
I do love this quaint Malaysian Custom of ordering someone to appear at a given police station at a given time

Its like... Are they too lazy to go and pick him up themselves... or dont they give a monkey's arse if he turns up or not

Or is it just another example of how Malaysians love to tell each other what to do
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written by A MI, November 17, 2008 15:59:23
AMNO-fearing imam? munafeeq is what he is then.

Geez. One report from JAKIM and PEEDEEArEm springs into action.So efficient are they not?

There are so many reports made against corrupt AMNO goons and nothing is done
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written by lamakawan, November 17, 2008 16:00:41
Hello JAKIM, why not set up a sub committee specially to handle RPK's bisinesses? In this way, you can have a hotline to RPK and it will be the shortest short cut to do business with RPK? What ever problems that you may have RPK can sort it out for you right away? Don't have to ask RPK to this or that police station?
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 16:01:17
Hey, dingo! next time if you want any report from RPK,just fax to RPK and he don't have to go to the police station becos it's very troublesome for RPK since he have just come out of Kamunting.Don't disturb him.
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written by BORN FREE, November 17, 2008 16:07:00
Gosh ! Doesnt this dingos have other better things to do than to distrub RPK?
Go and catch those real criminals out there and Rakyat will be more happy and
thankful to you all !!
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written by cheekymate, November 17, 2008 16:09:37
This is the work of the Syed Botak. He hates our RPK and is always waiting for an opportunity to pounce again. Vengeful scumbag and retaliating for the slap on his face when court ruled to release our hero. This is one of the most hated and repulsive person alive.
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 16:24:04
ahmadneil will be at Sentul ,2.30 pm to see personally what these dingo are up to.
So guys let show our hidden force.
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written by ahmadneil, November 17, 2008 16:24:51
I'm wearing a new model T shirt'Don't disturb RPK'.
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written by budakindia, November 17, 2008 16:31:43
Besides picking their noses what you expected from Jakim? smilies/grin.gif What's next? banning the word of Islam itself to non-Muslims? Go right ahead! I'm sure we have many creative words for the "religion" of yours! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Mr Smith, November 17, 2008 16:39:55
This is intimidation of the worst kind. Any idiot can lodge a report against RPK or an Opposition leader and the police springs into action.
But try making a report against UMNO, nothing happens.
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written by Joelim, November 17, 2008 16:42:14
Don't tell me JAKIM is another abbreviation for UMNO!!
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written by cheekymate, November 17, 2008 16:46:11
Bring out the righteous Imam Ramlang Porigi and put to shame those Jakim posers who are faithful only to their warlords instead of to the Almighty Allah. Those who blaspheme will not escape judgement from the Almighty. You will be judged for your sins.
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written by Mee Udang, November 17, 2008 16:51:41
NOTE: Shouting comment removed - nk
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written by talk2stop, November 17, 2008 16:58:14
Well there are more to come as long as UMNO is in power. You don't honestly think this time is the last time. Malaysia is in a chronic condition. It is like a broken family, how much can you do?
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written by Anti Relon, November 17, 2008 17:09:13
NOT AGAIN!!!
But favour this 'why not allocate an office for RPK at Bukit Aman, Sentul and etc police stations?' Hokit
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written by sydput, November 17, 2008 17:11:03
there is no democracy, free speech, justice and compassion in an islamic state.
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written by ekt tan, November 17, 2008 17:29:58
Umnoputra is determined to silence our hero RPK and any opposition dissent. Anyone and everyone is a threat to 'national security'if they speak up against the BN government. Gestapo police have orders to clamp down on dissent with whatever means. Of course the ISA is the most powerful tool available.PDRM being the lawful guardian of 'UMNO peace' will continue to rule with ruthless endeavours in the name of creating 'social peace and harmony'. Being in power for 51 years, BN has enjoyed the 'high life' plundering the nations wealth and they will not give up that privilege easily. To loose control of government will further expose their corrupt deeds and dark financial secrets.
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written by peng, November 17, 2008 17:35:32
Putting away one man will not silence the rest. It will only make them more determined!
RPK, please watch your back. It will be anytime soon. We are still with you.
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written by IbnAbdHalim, November 17, 2008 17:55:35
It seems that the Jakuns at JAKIM had nothing else to do. Get rid of UMNO and everything will go well for Malaysia.
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written by Tsunami08, November 17, 2008 18:45:49
Since when did our police has become the guardian of a religion?

Hard to imagine that taxpayers are paying these Jakim officers' salaries. And 90% of tax money are from unohoo.
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written by SamSan, November 17, 2008 18:46:10
I think the time has come for Tok Guru Nik Aziz to start another marathon prayer session enjoined by all the majority right thinking Malaysians to ask Allah almighty to intervene and put a stop to all this ridiculous persecution of innocent and truth seeking individuals. May Allah protect us from the devlish BN/UMNO evil forces.
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written by Kathy, November 17, 2008 18:49:02
If I were RPK I would take a "sabbatical" and temporarily migrate to the UK. After all his mother is British and this means he is entitled to British citizenship. At least he and Marina can have some peace until DSAI topples the govt.
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written by allmenarebrothers, November 17, 2008 18:54:35
Read "Eh Goondu" by Toh Paik Choo.
You'll be entertained.
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written by kksam, November 17, 2008 18:58:58
JAKIM is BN's tool, just another tool to fool our malay brother and sister.
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written by Lim Lim, November 17, 2008 19:01:33
umno is hereby proven to be absolutely sick n lowlife.
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written by riversnail, November 17, 2008 19:03:08
NOTE: Shouting comment removed - nk
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written by Admiral Tojo, November 17, 2008 19:36:27
RPK,
tell JAKIM about the latest findings by a prominent German Islamic Professor on the existence of Muhammad, http://online.wsj.com/article/...s_comments

Do enjoy the read for everybody.

Salaam
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written by Admiral Tojo, November 17, 2008 19:38:35
Jakim does nor represent ISLAM, as per Quran. Their Gods are the UMNO Gods of corruption, thievery and probably murder. They are beyond repentence

Salaam
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written by Sabahfan, November 17, 2008 19:44:09
DEAR POLICE CHIEFS.....

If you really wanna carry out your job professionally, then either allocate a small office space for RPK to write answers for you.

You can also interview him anywhere , at home, at restorant.. at the beach...BUT to keep demanding to report to your idiotic POLICE station is pure HARASSMENT....

It shows your true colours... tunjuk kuasa....!!!

therefore, I am going ahead with my campaign amonsts all personnels in the hospital all over malaysia to BLACKLIST you guys and immediate families...
we know who you are !!
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written by onnetline, November 17, 2008 19:47:47
Jackim & Polis are both pariah dogs of Barisan Najis !!
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written by Alice, November 17, 2008 20:53:51
AIYOOOOO ALL THE TIME AFTER RAJA PETRA THE 'TERRORIST' . I DON'T BLAME THEM COZ RAJA PETRA SEEMS TO BE TERRORIZING THE PDRM ALL THE TIME.I THINK IF THEY DON'T GO AFTER RAJA PETRA THEY MAY NOT HAVE MUCH WORK FOR THE DAY.

WHAT'S THIS JAKIM ALL ABOUT? JAKIM PLEASE BE SURE THAT YOU GET YOUR WISDOM FROM GOD AND NOT UMNO COZ AS AN ISLAMIC BODY YOU ARE ANSWERABLE TO GOD .SO MANY REAL ISLAMIC PROBLEM AMONG THE MUSLIMS AND HERE THERE ARE CHASING AFTER A MAN WHO IS WELL READ ABOUT ISLAM. ON THE OTHER HAND IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THEM TO KEEP HUNTING FOR RAJA PETRA COZ HE CUD SHED SOME LIGHT AND BRIGHTEN THEIR PATHS . HMMMMM MALAYSIA OH MALAYSIA!!
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written by Sabahfan, November 17, 2008 23:16:48
In other countries... any police who is carrying out investigation work, get their butts off their chair and go out interviewing people and even interogate those strong suspects whereever they are..

HERE IN MALAZUTLAND.... THE POLICE TUNJUK KUASA BY SUMMONING PEOPLE TO SCOLD THEM AT THEIR FUKKKING POLICE STATION...

HOOOIIII POLIS UMNO SIAL...

YOU NOT ONLY ARROGANT.... BUT LAZY AND BLOOOODY CORRRUPTED....

SIAL KAMU TIADA MALU...


GO OUT OF YOUR CONFORTABLE OFFICE AND DO SOME REAL POLICE WORK... not just harrassing non dangerous people.... you got no guts facing the polipinss with M16 or peddling syabu everywhere....
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written by Msian Idol3, November 17, 2008 23:19:01
Jakim leaders are a bunch of snakes. Every which way they sway comes a different tune - UMNO is the overlord & they are good at putting up a front to fool the rakyat. Of course they don't have any quality people heading the organisation. They don't even dare to whimper about brother Talang coming out in the open telling the truth about the swearing Sinful saga. Just another division of UMNO goon squad to fool muslims. We call them "devils in sheep clothings".
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written by iceman_taft, November 18, 2008 01:29:39
Blimey!The coppers in this country really don't seem to have a handle on things do they?Real crime is at a all time high from what I've read in the papers and they rather concentrate on poor RPK.Plus this JAKIM people have a holier than thou attitude.Such a blinking shame!!What a bunch of wankers!!
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written by buaya, November 18, 2008 01:35:45
It has become a trend that AMNO and goons like to use Polis as their weapons.
What they need to do is just to make a polis report, the next thing you know, you will be either ISA or sitting in jail.
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written by RumahPanjai, November 18, 2008 01:37:21
If JAKIM is almighty's earthly enforcer, why do they need the secular police? Don't they have faith in the almighty? They are the other version of the pharisees. Perverted holiness. Cowards who are lost for words when given a little shake up by RPK. Their knowledge of the religion is so all superficial. They rather submit and embrace to UMNO than the almighty. Isn't that apostasy?
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written by Janaka, November 18, 2008 02:38:46
NOW we all know WHO IS TERRORIZE our BELOVED SIR RPK! Morons CROWING ACTION AGAIN?
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PJ Anti-ISA vigil moved to Civic Centre car park

PJ Anti-ISA vigil moved to Civic Centre car park

November 14, 2008

 

Date : 16th November, 2008

Time : 8.00pm

Venue : Car park opposite the Civic Centre, PJ New Town

I want to say a big ‘Thank You’ to our elected reps in Selangor for leading the way amongst the Pakatan state governments in showing solidarity with vigilers who have been coming out to condemn the ISA and its contiued use to detain without trial.

Our reps have worked it so that we can continue to hold our vigil in the safety of the car park in front of the Civic Centre.

YB Gobind Singh and YB Dr Zulkifli Ahmad have confirmed attendance.

See you all on Sunday.

More Information: http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/pj-anti-isa-vigil-moved-to-civic-centre-car-park/#comment-32460

At Kelana Jaya Stadium Part 3

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KELANA JAYA STADIUM